MorningGlory Posted January 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Thallasa said: Thankyou M.G.,but I have the benefit of having lived in three european counties and spent real time in Spain and England. As you will see my interests are people with 'good intentions ' . Some people even when they go astray are well intended and others who pretend to care, or believe, are basically ill intentionee but hide it well. I saw this in Trump when I watched him at home in Lewis,with his cousins ,who were super and good people ,and probably the kind that the pretend people would have felt sorry for ,or ignored ,but Donald (a good teutcher name ) was so natural and at home .. Then I saw a video, when he was talking about Iraq indicating his intelligence and honest caring for his own, and also for the people of Iraq ,but then it may have been taken down, as all I could see on the net was his 'actor side ',and of course his womanising ,which was very little in comparison to the baby boom generation . If you take a looking down on view you can see that there is a big mess which must sorted out ,and to do that, certain things must end, and others limited ,but most people see only from their own corner ,and therefore in a very limited way . We are living here in France ,the possibility of another socialist progressist government, which will finally rot France totally . I am neither of the right or left and choose according to the need to balance ,but while the left was needed to rein in the excesses of the very rich and royal class structure of the past ,the extreme left is no longer about justice , but a deep and dangerous change in values challenging God and His lawful creation . As we now know (we did not long ago ) if we do not let the earth breath, and have sometime to renew it self ,it can no longer produce anything at all , and if left too long will be permanently damaged . I thought that This made a little Parable, for those countries who have taken in so many refugrees and immigrants, and have produced so much of the worlds wealth and spiritual energy . " Time, for a Fallow Season " !! Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: Case in point, from the Connecticut Post: "As he sat in an immigration holding room, Dr. Tarek Alasil ran a mental checklist of worst-case scenarios. "The Yale University ophthalmology resident said he wondered how long he would be separated from his wife and two American-born children. Would he be forced to return to his native Allepo in Syria, where the atrocities of a civil war have been compared to the Holocaust? Would it short-circuit his pending U.S. citizenship application? "Alasil, 35, cut short a medical mission treating indigent cataract patients in the Bahamas on Saturday on the advice of Yale colleagues and immigration lawyers who urged him to return to Connecticut immediately. "Despite having a green card and being married to a U.S. citizen, Alasil was detained by customs agents carrying out an executive order from President Donald Trump. The controversial ban made no distinction from permanent residents such as Alasil, a resident of Orange, with visitors from seven predominantly Muslim, countries. It sparked widespread protests at major U.S. airports Saturday and Sunday...." http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Yale-doctor-entangled-in-Trump-s-immigration-net-10892773.php A weekend is probably the worst time to be stuck in an airport in chaos. Although Alasil missed his flight, he was cleared to book anothera few hours later. Collateral damage, OS2. Sometimes a few have to be inconvenienced for the protection of the millions of Americans who have the right to expect just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, heyvavhey said: Would anyone like to hear how many times I've suffered long delays because of terrorists, and their potential harm? It once took 55 hours to get home from Berlin...that's just one time. Do you know that I have to suffer being treated like a criminal when I go through an airport (because of them) since 2001? People are spoiled these days, and some reognise that ,and don't complain too much, but too many live in cloud cuckoo land . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyvavhey Posted January 30, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 346 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 30, 2017 The "cuckoos" can put up with a delay of a few hours to make sure everyone is safe, especially if that is what they also expect of everyone else. This is unfortunate....but not as bad as the delays we all get because some muslim terrorists DID commit a heinous crime in 2011 That was real discrimination. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 hours ago, heyvavhey said: The "cuckoos" can put up with a delay of a few hours to make sure everyone is safe, especially if that is what they also expect of everyone else. This is unfortunate....but not as bad as the delays we all get because some muslim terrorists DID commit a heinous crime in 2011... As if something as heinous as 9-11 can justify any lesser evil? And one of those "cuckoos" was a Yale ophthalmologist on a medical mission treating indigent cataract patients in the Bahamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted January 31, 2017 18 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Collateral damage, OS2.... "Military slang for the mass murder of civilians through the use of weapons which are known in advance to be imprecise and/or to cause damage across a large area" I haven't heard collateral damage invoked since Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,116 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,847 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said: "Military slang for the mass murder of civilians through the use of weapons which are known in advance to be imprecise and/or to cause damage across a large area" I haven't heard collateral damage invoked since Vietnam. not mass murder of civilians, the loss of one single one would still fit the definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Sorry if this has been mentioned before..But didn't Obama do the same thing back in 2011? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyvavhey Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 346 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, da_man1974 said: Sorry if this has been mentioned before..But didn't Obama do the same thing back in 2011? Yes, he did. And the Democrats voted their support for a muslim ban from those 7 countries....which was the basis of Trump's EO Jimmy Carter ordered the deportation of 50,000 Iranians back in 1980, when Iran became an Islamic state. Here's his quote: The Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today.We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted January 31, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, heyvavhey said: Yes, he did. And the Democrats voted their support for a muslim ban from those 7 countries....which was the basis of Trump's EO So why is everyone up in arms when trump does the same thing that Obama did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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