The deadly sins what are they

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, Ezra said:

This passage is about physical death, which is not as deadly as spiritual and eternal death in the Lake of Fire (as designed for the Devil and his angels).  It is the sin of unbelief that sends people to Hell.

I was pointing to where I thought Heavenunlimited was referring to.

 

Beside the location of the verse, can you provide evidence to show that this is only for physical death as from my study of G2288 the death does mean a physical death that leads to a spiritual death.  To be more precise, from The Complete Word Study Dictionary - New Testament:

In the NT, this sense is applied with more definitiveness to the gospel plan of salvation, and as zoe is used to denote the bliss and glory of the kingdom of God including the idea of a joyful resurrection, so thanatos is used for the opposite, i.e., rejection from the kingdom of God.  This includes the idea of a physical death as aggravated by eternal condemnation; the idea of physical death being something more prominent, and sometimes that of subsequent perdition (John 8:51; Romans 6:16, 21,23; 7:5, 10; 8:2. 6' 2 Corinthians 2:16; 3:7; 2 Timothy 1:10; Hebrews 2:15; James 5:20; 1 John 3:14; 5:16, 17).

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, Willa said:

A sin leading to death might be to reject God's Word regarding Jesus.  That He dwelt with God in the beginning as the Word, and that He created the Universe. John 1:1-4, 14, Phil. 2:5-8 That He humbled Himself, taking the form of man, a servant, and further to the death of the cross for our sins. He arose from the dead.   So He is the source of all life.  

1Jn 5:12  Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

A sin leading to death might be deception by cults as to the Person and work of Christ.  So if we learn that a person is taking lessons from the cults, we might reason with the person from the Scriptures showing the error, in hopes of their repentance.  

It probably is the rejection of the person and work of the Holy Spirit, as what Jesus called the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit when attributing His work to satan.  This shows a hardness of heart that may be beyond hope of repentance.  

I have no idea what 7 deadly sins are because I can't find the term used in Scripture. 

Though the word deadly is not used, you can find the seven sins here:

Proverbs 6:16-19

These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, OneLight said:

Beside the location of the verse, can you provide evidence to show that this is only for physical death as from my study of G2288 the death does mean a physical death that leads to a spiritual death. 

The context itself establishes that this is physical death.  No can can possibly pray for another's spiritual death since that is determined upon a person's response to the Gospel. If a sinner will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, no amount of prayers can keep him from Hell.

However, Christians pray all the time for God to spare their loved ones from physical death, and what John is saying is that there are some sins "unto death" and there are others which are not "unto death". 

 

[Heavenunlimited]

11 minutes ago, Ezra said:

The context itself establishes that this is physical death.  No can can possibly pray for another's spiritual death since that is determined upon a person's response to the Gospel. If a sinner will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, no amount of prayers can keep him from Hell.

However, Christians pray all the time for God to spare their loved ones from physical death, and what John is saying is that there are some sins "unto death" and there are others which are not "unto death". 

 

So what sins are to death?

[OneLight]

4 minutes ago, Ezra said:

The context itself establishes that this is physical death.  No can can possibly pray for another's spiritual death since that is determined upon a person's response to the Gospel. If a sinner will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, no amount of prayers can keep him from Hell.

However, Christians pray all the time for God to spare their loved ones from physical death, and what John is saying is that there are some sins "unto death" and there are others which are not "unto death".

I will take it that your evidence is just how you see the scripture.  I gave you the word definition of what death meant from the Greek word study dictionary.  Read it again using the context by which I provided and see if you can notice the difference, meaning that this is both physical and spiritual death.  Notice that the one praying is not praying for, but against a sin, so your statement that it is for is incorrect.  Perhaps you typed it wrong?

1 John 5:16-17

If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

[Ezra]

14 minutes ago, OneLight said:

he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death.

Please notice "and He will give him life", not "He will give him eternal life".  That should settle the matter.

[OneLight]

Just now, Ezra said:

Please notice "and He will give him life", not "He will give him eternal life".  That should settle the matter.

The subject matter and focus is sin, not death.  It goes on to state that there are two different type of sins, one that does not lead to death, and another that does.  You cannot take the meaning for just one and not both in a verse. Look at it this way, you are also saying that nobody should ever pray for someone who has committed a sin that would cause them to loose their life.  That is not how God works.

The definition I gave you came directly from the Greek Word Study dictionary.  The ISBN is 0-89957-663-X - you should check it out as for the one word death (thanatos - G2288) explains how the word is used for every time it is found in the NT and takes a full double column page.  You can also find a very simple definition here: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G2288&t=KJV 

You will see that the word means both

[Ezra]

27 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Look at it this way, you are also saying that nobody should ever pray for someone who has committed a sin that would cause them to loose their life.  That is not how God works.

That is NOT what I said.  What I said is that people can pray for those who may be heading towards physical death (and that is what John is talking about).  Then he adds that there is a sin which is "unto death" and there would be no need to pray for that person. Why?  Because he will die regardless.  But in any event this is not about eternal life, but about life on earth.

[OneLight]

I did not say you said that.  I was trying to get you to see the premise you were setting.  I will not dispute this with you as you are not even trying to understand that the meaning used in this verse means both, as I gave you evidence.  Remember when Jesus taught in Matthew 18:15-18

Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.  Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

This is the same thing.  If someone sins, and you ask God to forgive them, He will answer that prayer as it is also His will that forgiveness be given.  The Holy Spirit will work in the sinner toward repentance.  Now, if someone blasphemes the Holy Spirit, don't pray for that person.  If you still cannot see this, then I will not reply again with another explanation.

[Heavenunlimited]

And how do they blaspheme the holy spirit?