9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

[Heb 13:8]

Isa 26:20 Go, my people, enter your rooms (cheder) and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.

 

cheder: a chamber, room

Original Word: חֶ֫דֶר

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine

Transliteration: cheder

Phonetic Spelling: (kheh'-der)

Short Definition: bedroom

 

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John 14:2 My Father's house has many rooms (moné); if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?

 

moné: an abiding, an abode

Original Word: μονή, ῆς, ἡ

Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine

Transliteration: moné

Phonetic Spelling: (mon-ay')

Short Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room

Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion.

 

Isa 26:18 We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind (ruach). We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life.

 

John 3:8 The wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (pneuma)."

 

ruach: breath, wind, spirit

Original Word: ר֫וּחַ

Part of Speech: Noun Feminine

Transliteration: ruach

Phonetic Spelling: (roo'-akh)

Short Definition: spirit

 

pneuma: wind, spirit

Original Word: πνεῦμα, ατος, τό

Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter

Transliteration: pneuma

Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo'-mah)

Short Definition: wind, breath, spirit

Definition: wind, breath, spirit.

 

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[Heb 13:8]

12 minutes ago, Amazing Horse said:

Rapture can't be on certain day only between days , so it would have to be at 00:00 from 20 to 21 september if you say so .

http://www.torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp

[Amazing Horse]

9 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

http://www.torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp

I don't think that it could be at sunset because it would contradict with Luke 12

37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

 

Why Jesus mention 2 and 3 but not others . Also Rapture is not for Jews so personally i think that he has to come at midnight , because if he come at sunset then you could not know day as stated in Matthre 24:36 , but you could know hour when he come , contradicting scriptures . The only way you can't know hour and day is at 00:00 gentile time .

If he come at sunset good , 6 hours less pain for me .

Edited September 15, 2017 by Amazing Horse

[Daniel 11:36]

No one knows when the Lord will make those of the church immortal for He has not given the dating in His word

Once this happens then He will bring the 70th week of the tribulation and beyond

[Heb 13:8]

8 hours ago, Amazing Horse said:

I don't think that it could be at sunset because it would contradict with Luke 12

37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

The twinkling of an eye in 1 Cor 15:52 is in reference to sunset. For example, many Christians tell others to be watchful and yet deny the Rev 12 sign starring them in the face or haven't a clue on how to interpret it correctly. They also think that not knowing the day and hour still applies to end times. God Bless.

[Heb 13:8]

2 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

No one knows when the Lord will make those of the church immortal for He has not given the dating in His word

Once this happens then He will bring the 70th week of the tribulation and beyond

Hi 11:36. God already gave us a time line of 1260, 1290, 1335 days in Daniel and Revelation.

2017 - 2024 Time Line

(1.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago

(2.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17

(3.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11)

(4.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24

(5.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15

(6.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4

(7.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then lands on 11/26/24, 75 days later (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20

God Bless You.

[Amazing Horse]

11 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The twinkling of an eye in 1 Cor 15:52 is in reference to sunset. For example, many Christians tell others to be watchful and yet deny the Rev 12 sign starring them in the face or haven't a clue on how to interpret it correctly. They also think that not knowing the day and hour still applies to end times. God Bless.

You can know hour of sunset or even minute , then God must lied in Matthew 24:36 by your logic saying that nobody know hour .

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, Amazing Horse said:

You can know hour of sunset or even minute , then God must lied in Matthew 24:36 by your logic saying that nobody know hour .

Matt 24:36 is not referring to rapture. Remember, context.

1. Matt 24:36 is referring to Matt 24:35.
2. Jesus also had not ascended to the throne in Matt 24. God revealed His plan to Him after ascension, read Rev 1:1, Phil 2:7.

- Heb 13:8

[Amazing Horse]

11 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Matt 24:36 is not referring to rapture. Remember, context.

1. Matt 24:36 is referring to Matt 24:35.
2. Jesus also had not ascended to the throne in Matt 24. God revealed His plan to Him after ascension, read Rev 1:1, Phil 2:7.

- Heb 13:8

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Also using your name Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jesus knew that date because he is the Father also , but he could not tell because he was  not in resurrected body which is limited , that's the clue that you can't know day or hour in not resurrected body .

 

Also nowhere in bible it says twinkling of eye is sunset , it could aswell be time period less than plancks constant but it's just assumption made by  you , not in Scriptures .

[Heb 13:8]

36 minutes ago, Amazing Horse said:

Jesus knew that date because he is the Father also , but he could not tell because he was  not in resurrected body which is limited , that's the clue that you can't know day or hour in not resurrected body .

I would disagree that Jesus knew in Matt 24, or He wouldn't of added himself to the list of those who don't know. Can you imagine Jesus telling the disciples that His coming would be in 2017. They would of lost hope. The Father kept this from Him, but we are at the end now. The end times are here.

Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge."

45 minutes ago, Amazing Horse said:

Also nowhere in bible it says twinkling of eye is sunset , it could aswell be time period less than plancks constant but it's just assumption made by  you , not in Scriptures .

1 Thess 5:5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

Zeph 1:15 That day will be a day of wrath— a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness—

In Hebraic thought, evening twilight is understood as a transitional period between day and night. It is currently understood that it is evening twilight as long as two stars of medium magnitude are visible, but it is night upon the appearance of a third star of medium magnitude. In ancient times, some understood that night begins in a moment in time which is impossible to determine called the twinkling of an eye. This is interesting, as Paul prophesied that the righteous would be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Paul's use of the phrase the twinkling of an eye aligns perfectly with the ancient understanding.. http://www.torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp