Is Maryology Idolatry?

[Guest shiloh357]

Just now, inchrist said:

Youre adding to scripture....

No, I am not.  I am explaining the obvious meaning.   Mary was not ever John's mother.   She was his Aunt.

[Guest shiloh357]

1 minute ago, inchrist said:

Youre adding to scripture....

No, I am just not buying into your justification and defense of RCC paganism

[BobRyan]

On 5/4/2017 at 11:52 AM, inchrist said:

Well actually it does

Blessed are you among women,

Catholicism seems to be the only one prophetically fulfilling this. Blessing her

Blessed are you among women...

And then of course the one-and-only time someone tried the "blessed be Mary for being the mother of Jesus" proposal on Him. His response starts with "on the contrary".

But He said, "On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it."  - Luke 12:28

[BobRyan]

3 hours ago, inchrist said:

Wrong you can easily  see a picture of mary in Rev 12 

Mary is not in Rev 12 - the Church of God in the OT and NT is there - and after Jesus is taking up into heaven in Rev 12 then follows 1260 years of the dark ages persecution against that church.

[BobRyan]

3 hours ago, inchrist said:

Again no, it states for consultation....Consulting the dead.....Catholics do not consult the dead.

 

Communion with the Dead -- CCC 958 is what they claim.

Isaiah 8:19 forbids it. The Bible does not allow Christians to go to the dead "on behalf of the living"

Edited May 5, 2017 by BobRyan

[BobRyan]

3 hours ago, inchrist said:

Well you see when she got back from her Caribbean trip...because apparently she just drops off the map.....Christ actually presents her as the apostles mother

He says that to John - as a way of requesting that John take care of Mary for the rest of her life. It is not at all clear that John had that duty before Christ's last few minutes alive on Earth prior to the cross event.

Edited May 5, 2017 by BobRyan

[BobRyan]

6 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

This is David speaking in the Spirit so this is really the Spirit talking, stating something as a mere matter of course, stating what the saints and angels are doing in heaven anyway

That text refers to no dead beings only the living. David does not say that any of the beings listed are "dead" or even "Dead in Christ" the way that Paul says about the saints that have died in 1Thess 4. So then we could insert it, via bold inference, but it is not in the text explicitly.

Edited May 5, 2017 by BobRyan

[Kindle]

9 hours ago, inchrist said:

Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in Psalm 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2)

And yes I do think you are very prejudice especially coping statements from anti catholic websites where the Pope claims he is God, without conducting an unbiased research in the matter first

https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=258966

 

lol,First of all that isn't the site where the info came from. Second there is evidence that the pope himself said he was God.Either your so indoctrinated that you don't care or you haven't done the research.

[Kindle]

6 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

I have seen one or two papal encyclicals where it is boldly stated that Catholics WORSHIP Mary. 

Yep

[Kindle]

13 hours ago, inchrist said:

Go on you got this from a protestant website, didnt you?

By the way here is the original and that is not what was stated by the Pope,

ecretum, pars prima (Part One), Distinctio XCVI, Canon 7.

 

 

Satis euidenter ostenditur, a seculari potestate nec solui prorsus, nec ligari Pontificem, quem constat a pio principe Constantino (quem longe superius memorauimus) Deum appellatum, cum nec posse Deum ab hominibus iudicari manifestum sit. Sed et Theodosius minor sanctae sinodo scribens dixit Ephesinae primae. "Deputatus est igitur Candidianus, magnificentissimus comes strenuorum domesticorum, transire usque ad sanctissimam sinodum uestram, et in nullo quidem, quem faciendae sunt de piis dogmatibus questiones seu potius expositiones, communicare. Illicitum namque est eum, qui non sit in ordine sanctissimorum episcoporum, ecclesiasticis intermisceri tractatibus." (Et post pauca:) §. 1.

His itaque manifestis repertis aparet conministrum Ignatium per inperialem tantummodo sententiam nullo modo potuisse prorsus expelli. In cuius dampnatione quia presulum quoque assensus est subsecutus, aparet fuisse patratum id causa adulationis, non legitimae sanctionis.

 

 

No

Translation -It is abundantly clear is shown, be set free from a secular power, either entire, nor is ligated to a High Priest, who it is established by a pious ruler, Constantine (whom I have already spoken, was taken far away), that God is named, it is evident, since it is not that God can not be judged by men. But Theodosius minor Council writes the first Ephesus. "The Deputy of the is, therefore, Candidianus, magnificent companion of these resolute of his own house, put away, as far as admitted to the blessed and form a synod of your own, and in no way is that which should be made are not of the pious and the dogmas of the questions, or rather its explanation we may communicate to others. No one ought, for it is man, which is not in the order of even the holiest of the bishops, the Church interfere discussions. With these Ignatius, therefore, is manifest, and by fellow ministers of the imperial discoveries will follow, to light at all is only the sentence in no way have to be driven out. In its condemnation of the bishops, the proposal is now followed him to light have been committed to the cause of flattery, it is not lawful sanctions.

 

Let's try this from a different approach.

 

Why don't You tell me what you think the RCC stand for and believes?