The Tribulation?

[Guest shiloh357]

1 minute ago, n2thelight said:

How can you be God's chosen and not believe in the Son

Believing in Jesus is not a prerequisite for being part of God's chosen nation.   "Chosen"  doesn't mean "saved."  It is not a redeemed condition.   It simply means chosen for service.  God has a plan for Israel and He will be faithful to that plan and He doesn't need your permission to do so.

[n2thelight]

Just now, shiloh357 said:

Actually, you don't really know which of the tribes is or is not in the Land.  God knows the other tribes and where they are and he will take them out of the Gentile nations and bring them back to the land, as He has promised.

And you don't know anything about the Jews living there, frankly. 

The Christian nations are Israel.That's why the Church and Israel can't be seperated.

 

3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Actually, you don't really know which of the tribes is or is not in the Land.  God knows the other tribes and where they are and he will take them out of the Gentile nations and bring them back to the land, as He has promised.

And you don't know anything about the Jews living there, frankly. 

Of course I know as the Jew's only make up Judah and that's who's in Israel now

[Guest shiloh357]

Just now, n2thelight said:

The Christian nations are Israel.That's why the Church and Israel can't be seperated.

Wrong.  That is anti-Semitic.  Israel is Israel.  That's the only correct and Christian way to see it. 

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Of course I know as the Jew's only make up Judah and that's who's in Israel now

You really don't know which ones of which tribe are in Israel at this time. 

[Guest shiloh357]

11 minutes ago, inchrist said:

Define anti-semitic......

Rejecting the notion that the house of Ephraim has accepted Christ their Messiah? is not anti- Semitic?

Claiming that Ephraim are Gentiles is anti-Semitic.

[Guest shiloh357]

15 minutes ago, inchrist said:

The church is very much part of Israel, one house does not represent the entirety of Israel simply because they reject the church, to justify a blanket statement the church is not israel, where as the other house has accepted Christ and has made its Church flourish.

You might want to learn the parable of the prodigal son and take not of the Samaritan woman.

 

 

Yeah, I reject such false, anti-Semitic teachings.  Completely of the devil.

[n2thelight]

17 minutes ago, inchrist said:

God has appointed time that he will deal with the house of Judah....they will be provoked to Jealousy. I would suggest to study Zechariah 12 & 13.....and think what will prompted the House of Judah to Jealousy.

God has not forsaken the House of Judah

One must believe in the Son,period.Not to say they won't come to that belief,however it must be done before His return.

[n2thelight]

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Wrong.  That is anti-Semitic.  Israel is Israel.  That's the only correct and Christian way to see it. 

Please define anti semetic

[n2thelight]

1 minute ago, inchrist said:

Yes they will believe in the Son but after He has come for his first bride

That will be to late,that's like seeking after a sign.

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me."

So Christ has two brides and by coming for His first wife,are you talking about the rapture?

[n2thelight]

5 minutes ago, inchrist said:

There are two houses is there not? 2 brides

The two houses will be joined back at the return of Christ ,1 bride

[Heb 13:8]

13 hours ago, n2thelight said:

So as of right now they don't have to believe that Christ is the Son of God?

Teknon the church in Rev 12:4-5 is referring to the body of Christ that already believes.