MorningGlory Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, PlanetChee said: No they can't. Let me clarify; anyone can THINK theyl are Christian without accepting Him into their heart but, no, they aren't. I thought I was a Christian before I was saved too. I don't think some churches preach the need for acceptance of Jesus. And that's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, OakWood said: That's not the same thing. I haven't said anything that excludes me from being a Christian. If I said that I sacrificed children and worshiped Satan then that would exclude me from being Christian, even if I said I was a Christian and attended church. Trump has said things that a Christian would not say, so I don't believe he is a born-again believer. He may become one, and I believe he may be close to it (at the seeker stage) but his words and actions do not support the understanding of one who knows what Christianity really is. We are told to discern all things by scripture, and we are told to test all things and hold to that which is true. We can judge others by their words and actions - (John 7:24) we cannot know what is truly in their heart and we cannot condemn them, but we can judge whether their doctrine is sound or not! I have not seen or heard anything from Donald Trump that would make me believe that he is a born again Christian. But many say it doesn't matter if our President is a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted May 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, missmuffet said: I have not seen or heard anything from Donald Trump that would make me believe that he is a born again Christian. But many say it doesn't matter if our President is a Christian. I'm not sure that it does matter. If Trump truly is a Cyrus-like figure being used by God then he doesn't have to be a believer. However, anybody that is used by God to do good often becomes a believer eventually, as it's God's way of reaching out to them. That's why I'm not criticising Trump - he'll find Jesus in his own time. In the meantime I don't believe he is a true born-again believer, and that's not against the rules. The moment that Donald Trump joins this forum and becomes a member then it will be against the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmaltzWeasel Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 141 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) One thing I've noticed without fail in Christian forums. When it comes to politics there are people who act as if they can take the name of Christ off as if it is an old blanket just to smear the politician they despise. Then they put that blanket on again when they enter the religious sections of the board and act the same way but in those instances their raking judgments are turned on other Christians. And it all happens because that kind of Christian thinks they're living what they think is the life of a Christian is entitled to throw all that judgment around because in their view other Christians aren't meeting their standard of proof for being in Christ. And the worst thing about that is when they invoke passages in the Bible about fruits, and righteous judgment, in order to defend their actions. As if God agrees with their tactics. When they will find out if they're right about that it will be too late to change. Witches casting spells against Donald Trump. Which started before the election and makes news again. Satan cannot prevail against the man God chose to lead this nation. Unfortunately, 15 minutes of fame for these Satanic fools is what gives them satisfaction. They're famous! Edited May 29, 2017 by SchmaltzWeasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted May 29, 2017 37 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: Let me clarify; anyone can THINK theyl are Christian without accepting Him into their heart but.... ... Trump thinks he's a Christian without ever having to confess any misdeed to God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted May 29, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 10:14 PM, MorningGlory said: Amen. I can't see the Lord letting this sick, depraved world continue for much longer. These people are calling up DEMONS to work against the President. This tells me that the Dark Left is getting more and more desperate because God has who He wants in the White House. As always. Amen MG , Maranatha Jesus come soon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted May 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said: ... Trump thinks he's a Christian without ever having to confess any misdeed to God! You don't know what he thinks nor do you know if he has ever confessed. Good grief, what a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedByGrace1981 Posted May 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,924 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/02/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/22/1953 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Let me clarify; anyone can THINK theyl are Christian without accepting Him into their heart but, no, they aren't. I thought I was a Christian before I was saved too. I don't think some churches preach the need for acceptance of Jesus. And that's terrible. Our pastor knows of another pastor (different denomination than ours, but one of the 'mainstream' ones) who does not even believe Jesus is God. How would you like to be in his church? Blessings, -Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, SavedByGrace1981 said: Our pastor knows of another pastor (different denomination than ours, but one of the 'mainstream' ones) who does not even believe Jesus is God. How would you like to be in his church? Blessings, -Ed That is why many Pastors might be left on earth during the seven year tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted May 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, MorningGlory said: You don't know what he thinks nor do you know if he has ever confessed. Good grief, what a statement. Well he did actually say that he never asks God to forgive his sins, because he doesn't have to..... so I will say that we do know what he thinks... unless of course, he was joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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