Homosexuality

[Guest reynolds20]

[Gerioke]

The bible says that If we seek Him out He will find us. There is lots of proof if you listen to the testemony of the saved.

I was a seeker up until 1992, then suddenly I was approached by a friend. I can't remember what he said but all of a sudden it all made sense. I can't show you God but you can see His works all around you. I have another friend who envies my faith. He says he wants to believe but he can't get past the proof. with 100% faith, knowledge would be null and void. It's all about faith. Believe

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[Guest reynolds20]

A lot of people don't allow God in their lives

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[Gerioke]

A lot of people don't allow God in their lives

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but does that really mean they should suffer, say for eg a 3 year old girl dies, did she deserve to die because she didnt believe?? shes a baby she is not old enough to make those kind of choices

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[Fiosh]

Dear reynolds,

The fact that you say that you "want to believe" is in itself a beautiful thing. It is a reflection of God's grace that He is drawing you to Himself.

No one comes to Jesus unless the Father draws Him. (read John 6:44)

Many, if not most, of the folks here will admit that they have had, or have, moments and periods of doubt, or at least of questioning.

But we pray for strength to hold on, we pray for faith to believe what we cannot see with our eyes, we pray for mercy in our weakness, and we move on.

Even Peter doubted and questioned, but went on to die for his faith.

So, keep searching. And while you do, try praying for the gift of fatih.

Ask God to reveal Himself to you thru His Son, Jesus.

Like they say, "you gotta believe (at least a little) ---to see".

Peace of Christ be with you,

Fiosh

[Guest reynolds20]

ok people thanks for the tips, i know i seemed a little hoprrible at first but i meant no offence, im gunna go to bed (im from the uk and its 12.15am over here) and im getting up early to go to church just to see

[Gerioke]

ok people thanks for the tips, i know i seemed a little hoprrible at first but i meant no offence, im gunna go to bed (im from the uk and its 12.15am over here) and im getting up early to go to church just to see

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God be wiyh you and bless you immensely

[Guest shiloh357]

and how do you know it was 'gods opinion' were you there? i think not

my best friend is gay does that make him a bad person, he helps people (he is a nurse) just because he is gay does not give you the right to judge people, who are you to say what is right and wrong?? being gay is "supposedly bad" because society does not accept it it has nothing to do with god

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rekynolds20,

We are all bad people. None of us good. We are all, in God's sight, sinners. We are all poor, sinful, wretches who deserve nothing from God but His judgement.

However, God in His mercy did not give us what we deserve. Instead He sent His Son, Jesus to bear in Himself our punishment. Jesus took all of God's wrath and hatred of sin, so that we would not have to.

God loves you and your friend who is a homosexual, but He hates homosexuality. What we are saying is not based upon societal sensitivities, but upon the very Word of God itself. (Leviticus 18:22-28; Deut. 23:17-18; 1 Romans 1:24-32; 1 Cor. 6:9-11; Tim. 1:8-11; Jude 1:7)

God is very clear where sin is concerned. God hates sin, but He loves each of us, and wants what's best for us. God wants you and your friend to repent of sin, turn from it completely, and receive Jesus as your Savior.

As for judging, we cannot judge the heart of a person, only God can do that. We can, however, judge that which God Himself has already judged. We can call homosexuality, "sin" and we can call it an "abominiation" becauase God calls it that.

all i see when i look around me is death and pain, people dying young is that gods work??

No, it is not God's work. All of this is a product of man's sin. Poverty is a product of man's oppression against his fellow man. Pain is inflicted because of man's hatred for his fellow,

Man works so hard to keep God out of his affairs, and would prefer to relegate the knowledge of God to the dustbin of history. After man has got done destroying himself, and each his neighbor, and has to bear the fruit of the evil he has perpetrated, who gets the blame? God. They want God out of their lives until it is time to take responsibility for their actions. They pull God out of the closet to be the scapegoat. Its funny how "there is no God," until things get messed up and out of control, and then God is blamed for the fruit that was produced out of man's desire to control his own affairs.

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and how do you know it was 'gods opinion' were you there? i think not

my best friend is gay does that make him a bad person, he helps people (he is a nurse) just because he is gay does not give you the right to judge people, who are you to say what is right and wrong?? being gay is "supposedly bad" because society does not accept it it has nothing to do with god

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How can it have "nothing to do with God" when God calls it a perversion and an abomination?

I have the "right" to judge what is right and wrong because what is right and wrong has been laid out for us. What I don't have is the right to judge whether or not your best friend is a Christian and saved for eternity. But I do have the "right" to judge his fruits. Just as he, if he is saved, has a "right" to judge mine if I claim I am a Christian.

Your friend may very well be a "good" person who helps lots of people. I have no doubt he is. That doesn't make him a Christian and saved anymore than sitting in a garage makes him a car. Has he put his faith and trust in Christ and Christ alone for his salvation? Does he follow the teachings of Christ and believe Him when He said "I am the way, the truth and the life.........no man cometh to the Father but by me"? If so, then God will not let him tarry in his homosexuality for long.

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ESH said......

The law is different for male and female homosexuals. Male homosexuality is condemned, but there is no prohibition against female homosexuality

Serph gave scripture indicating that female homosexulity is wrong.....

Romans 1:26-27 (The New King James Version)

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.

27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

ESH than said...........

I was talking about the law, not the opinion of Paul

So, ESH what law are you refereing to? If The Bible is considered the Law than is quite clear. I just understand your point ESH?