Can A Gay be a believer and be saved?

[ben34]

Sin kills David not smoking.

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It killed my father at only 42 years of age.

Yes, smoking kills.

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you speak of your father well let me speak of mine my father is 56 years of age now will be 57 this year has smoked most of his life even before adult age and has had a brain hemrage and yet is in better condition than most I have seen I do not praise him or say that he is better than any other but I will say he lives a faithful life in Christ does he sin sometimes yes but he comes to sin and repents and ask forgiveness if we remember it was sin that caused the death of christ not smoking or any of these other things it was sin. So before we say smoking kills we should look at our spiritual and fleshly lives first and seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and its righteousness.

[his-servant-too]

[i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point.

How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written

[Ovedya]

The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1].

**Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html

A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a

CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may

have a level of about 40 parts per million.

**Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however).

[Gerioke]

The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1].

**Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html

A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a

CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may

have a level of about 40 parts per million.

**Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however).

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look who's getting off topic now

[ben34]

[i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point.

How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written

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If there is any of you who can tell me where in scriptures it says that smoking kills and defiles the body? What it does say is that sin kills for sin caused the death of christ.

[Ovedya]

The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1].

**Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html

A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a

CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may

have a level of about 40 parts per million.

**Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however).

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look who's getting off topic now

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Well...I never said it didn't happen. But you're right..

[Ovedya]

[i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point.

How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written

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If there is any of you who can tell me where in scriptures it says that smoking kills and defiles the body? What it does say is that sin kills for sin caused the death of christ.

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Really? Where exactly does the Bible say that sin caused the death of Christ?

[ben34]

The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1].

**Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html

A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a

CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may

have a level of about 40 parts per million.

**Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however).

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look who's getting off topic now

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Well...I never said it didn't happen. But you're right..

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who are you saying is right ovedya?

[Imamom]

Can a Gay be a believer and be saved? To is smoking a sin. Hmmmmmm...

However feeling a bit irritated here. Sorrry

Sin kills, not smoking. As a smoker I pray every day that I find the faith in Gods power to quit this nasty, temple killing habit. The bible doesn't specifically mention illegal drug use as sin. I suppose destroying the temple with drugs is not a sin either. Don't buy it no I don't.

[RGR]

So if we assume cigarrettes are okay, what's next? Marijuana? If smoking a cigarette isn't a sin, how about a joint? Look, they all defile the body and that is a sin. The Bible speaks against gluttony which is overeating and will kill you prematurely. The only reason the Bible doesn't speak against cigarettes is that the Marlboro man wasn't around in that day!