Why Christian churches have not courts?

[Ogner]

8 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Then you need to find a Church, true believers that are guided by God's WORD.

Have you found a Church, true believers that are guided by God's WORD?

[Ogner]

17 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Hmmmm? Does that mean it can't be done?  

No I have not seen it . As I have not had any issues with another believer and or church member that needed the help of the pastor. But if I did I feel this would be the way I would handle it. 

I am sincerely glad, that you are all so good.

[ravindran]

1 hour ago, Ogner said:

"“You have heard that it was said to an older generation, ‘ Do not murder,’ and ‘whoever murders will be subjected to judgment.’ But I say to you that anyone who is angry with a brother will be subjected to judgment. And whoever insults a brother will be brought before the council, and whoever says ‘Fool’ will be sent to fiery hell."

Matthew 5:21-22

council  in Greek language συν­εδρίῳ Definitions: 1) the Sanhedrin, the great council at Jerusalem, consisting of the seventy one members, viz. scribes, elders, prominent members of the high priestly families and the high priest, the president of the assembly. The most important causes were brought before this tribunal, inasmuch as the Roman rulers of Judaea had left to it the power of trying such cases, and also of pronouncing sentence of death, with the limitation that a capital sentence pronounced by the Sanhedrin was not valid unless it was confirmed by the Roman procurator.
2) a smaller tribunal or council which every Jewish town had for the decision of less important cases.

For example, someone of brother insults me. 
Church have no courts. 
what should I do?

 

Aren't there Church elders to deal with this?

[Ogner]

13 minutes ago, ravindran said:

Aren't there Church elders to deal with this?

No. where did you see it?

 

[Ogner]

50 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Not a perfect Church of course, but one that will apply Matthew 18:15-17 when presented...

"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
(Mat 18:15-17)
 

Look for a Church that truly takes the Scriptures as God's Word and is not run on Tradition or run like a social club.

Do You know about cases like this in your Church? 
Can you tell me more about that?

[ravindran]

1 hour ago, Ogner said:

No. where did you see it?

 

Sorry, see what? I was asking if there are any elders in your church to deal with your situation with another person.

[Neighbor]

Yes I know Church discipline, as per Matthew 18. I know of church discipline that has had to go to the shunning of an unrepentant individual, and I have known the return and total forgiveness where no one ever holds the former affront against the individual, for the individual repents and is fully restored and welcomed into fellowship with all.

We have practical application, we have lessons, and reviews on it all. I do not know that to be totally unheard of as I have been led to other churches in the past that also have followed Bible guidance. 

We do not take an affront between Christians to the courts of civil law, for that harms our testimony as witnesses  for the gospel of our savior and Lord Jesus.

I, and really everyone I know, will rather suffer much loss  than ever take a brother or anyone else to seek judgement of the world.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2017 by Neighbor

[Neighbor]

1 Corinthians 6English Standard Version (ESV)

Lawsuits Against Believers

 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?  Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers,  but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded?  But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers!

Or do you not know that the unrighteouswill not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.  And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

[frienduff thaylorde]

13 hours ago, Neighbor said:

1 Corinthians 6English Standard Version (ESV)

Lawsuits Against Believers

 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?  Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers,  but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded?  But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers!

Or do you not know that the unrighteouswill not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.  And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

exactly.

[frienduff thaylorde]

On ‎8‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 1:28 PM, Neighbor said:

Yes I know Church discipline, as per Matthew 18. I know of church discipline that has had to go to the shunning of an unrepentant individual, and I have known the return and total forgiveness where no one ever holds the former affront against the individual, for the individual repents and is fully restored and welcomed into fellowship with all.

We have practical application, we have lessons, and reviews on it all. I do not know that to be totally unheard of as I have been led to other churches in the past that also have followed Bible guidance. 

We do not take an affront between Christians to the courts of civil law, for that harms our testimony as witnesses  for the gospel of our savior and Lord Jesus.

I, and really everyone I know, will rather suffer much loss  than ever take a brother or anyone else to seek judgement of the world.

 

 

Exactly.