Faith without works is Dead

[Reinitin]

11 hours ago, Blueyedjewel said:

It was a rhetorical question. Yes, legalism is heresy. It is works righteousness.  Do you know what works righteousness is? 

What you are describing is the instruction of the church as to how to handle a believer who has sinned and will not repent.It is laid out in Matthew 18.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with legalism!! 

I'll just tell you were I stand sweet sister. I rejected the faith through grace doctrin as my road to salvation and found Christ. I know the house and the scriptures is was built on and I know it is a God house that leads many to Christ. But I don't live in that house anymore my eye has turned to a path not a house that i try to walk with the Lord and my Doctrin has become non Denominational and The Thus saith the Lord, help me walk in it Father cause i need to hear your voice aĺl these people screaming different things have become unbelievable Help me see how much you love every single one of them so I can love them to and not dishonon you with vain words and enchantments and parroting deceptions. Lord, help my eye stay focused on you so i can do what I see you do like you did what you saw Father do.

[frienduff thaylorde]

Earning it versus simple obedience to it.     That is the problem many have.

Its why IF I say DO this or that , KEEP JESUS sayings, some say that is WORKS based.   NO.   NOT if we KNOW we are NOT EARNING RIGHETOUSNESS.

WE are LIVING IT .   I have asked people WHY do you feel you will be in heaven.   And right away we know What the answer should be.

But many today , specially this generation , say,  Well I am basically good,  or I feed the poor , I GO to church every day.   WELL he who justifies himself

by the law , HAS FALLEN from grace.   The answer is , BY the grace of GOD alone am  I saved.  

Now I also hear many say that.......yet they live like devils in sin and say WHO are you to judge when I correct or say KEEP JESUS sayings,  they accuse me of WORKS based.

INCORRECT yet again.   We are to remind one the other TO DO THINGS pleasing to GOD.  I guarantee we are.    We are to stir one another up by ways of remembrance

of the true faith , all about the KEEPING of JESUS sayings.    The one work required for salvation is BELEIVE in the ONE  WHOM GOD DID SEND.

IF From the HEART we do.   IF the love of GOD is on our hearts...........then we DO and LOVE HIS SAYINGS.

along the walk many lusts enter in and choke the word .   THIS is why exhorters UP...............we must remind and exhort daily

lest any to become hardend through sin.   We see error.  WE CORRECT ERROR exactly the way JESUS taught and the Apostels did.  Exactly .

FOR If ye do these things......YE SHALL NEVER FALL.    Peter said that. IF YOU DO.   that is action on our part, which is to OBEY the HOLY SPIRIT

or it it will be quenched.  PUT OUT.  most don't realize that.  But oh yes it can be.   and all that person has left is empty religion and that is it, IF even that.

I hear terms all  the time I have no idea what they mean.   I see terms one says means this to see another think it means that.  Legalism for example.

I say, why not unlearn all this.   Just start afresh IN THE BIBLE.   JUST DO what it says, and IF the SPIRIT is in us....IT UNCTIONS US TO DO THIS ANYWAY.

also the SPIRIT in another , WILL unction a brother or sister who is lacking . TO cease the lacking and DO the works of righteousness by the SPIRIT.

the early church to many would have sounded like a WORKS based relgion.    I SHOULD KNOW I preach it and am often accused of works based religion.

YET,   I constantly preach what.........SAVED SOLEY BY GRACE.  Give all the credit GOD and none to me.   

I will say this.   The early church was not a church that thought it could earn righteous, BUT IT KNEW IT BETTER LIVE IT BY THE SPIRIT

or fall away it would.   Obey the spirit, and the SPIRIT works through the members .   Again I get told sometimes.  DONT try and make someone or tell someone what to do

LET GOD TELL THEM.    REALLY.    ITS THE SPIRIT telling Me to warn or remind the other TO DO.   GOD works through the body TOO.  

HERE IS the truth.   the problem is so many have sat under men and let those men explain away or ADD TOO doctrine.   that is the problem.

Very clear I see this.   I thank MY LORD and MY GOD , that I leaned ONLY FROM HIM , FROM the BIBLE , FROM  THAT PATTERN ONLY.

Its different than so many men changed , men omitted and twisted teachings.  OH BUT ITS PURE and IT POINTS TO JESUS ONLY and NOT TO MAN .

[Reinitin]

5 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Was the 'foolish' Galatians doing God's Will by following the teaching of the Judaizers rather than Paul's? Truth matters. "Different teaching' is just a politically correct word for heresy.

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? (Gal 3:1-3)
 

God often uses the law to humble us as we see in Rom 7.

There it shows beautifully the futility of attempting a righteous walk by the law be he saved or unsaved. It takes the Cross  and the Spirit.

Even Peter errored and The Lord corrected him with Paul. People even twisted Pauls teachings and Peter said some of Pauls teachings are hard to understand. Flesh can twist Pauls, Teachings, Johns Teachings, James teachings, Jesus's teachings, Satan can even temp flesh to pervert a direct simple don't eat of that tree in the center of the garden or you will surely die. can't get much more straight forward then that? all these verse doctrins people count on for salvation are twisted. Satan nor the flesh can twist the Lord so our hope better be in Christ in us and not  the vainity of man.

[Reinitin]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Yes and our hope is in Jesus, not our good works.

right and paul did not have some unique brand and seperate teaching. He taught what Christ told him. These people do not open the Word and say Jesus that Paul spoke to take the scale off my eyes so I can see like you did for paul. There believing what some other person made augustuses teaching mean and paul's heart is already twiced removed and the majority of his insight rejected.

[Reinitin]

8 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Yes and our hope is in Jesus, not our good works.

amen... but if you reject the word of the Lord and his councel to do good works your no better off then that brother your condemning.

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

right and paul did not have some unique brand and seperate teaching. He taught what Christ told him. These people do not open the Word and say Jesus that Paul spoke to take the scale off my eyes so I can see like you did for paul. There believing what some other person made augustuses teaching mean and paul's heart is already twiced removed and the majority of his insight rejected.

My GOODNESS this happens all the time.   THEY DO THIS , because inside them its what they wanted.

I have watched them take teachers intepretations of the bible.  AND DUNG POO it is, for it contradicts JESUS sayings.

They do it with once saved always saved.   They do it with calvin, Baptist, Methodist, catholic,  THEY ALL DONE IT.

MY oh my so many are not sitting under Christ , they are sitting under mankind, his interpretation of what MAN thinks it should mean.

But it goes even deeper than that.  THE WHY .   its because their flesh wants an excuse for sin.    some sin, whether it be remarriage, whether it be storing up money

what ever their lust is.........they will SIT UNDER the teacher OF that lust so as they can FEEL SAVED . FEEL saved.   FEEL saved and still have they lust.

THAT is the whole reason this was done.   Years back JUSTIFIED war.  JUSTIED Christains killing for a holy righteous cause.

THEY Do things like this all the time.   But, it is because they love something MORE THAN JESUS.   And wont let it go.   THIS IS WHY all false doctrines began

and why men sit under them.  TO FEEL SAVED.   while in whatever lust it is they wanted.  For it wont be preached as a sin.   

[Reinitin]

20 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Yes, sometimes in our effort not to follow man we end up being our own leader and follower. God did place pastor-teachers in the Body of Christ in such a way as we need one another and not be a theological island. I take Paul's Word as Scripture just as Peter said.

Im non dniminational now:) I know children of God who live in the catholic house built on Peters proclomation of Chrsit's Word. They dont stand on that house for their salvation they stand on the rock of salvation Peter proclaimed.

I know children of God serving in the house that Calvin built from the testimony of Augustine about Paul's teaching But they are not trusting Paul Augustine or Calvin. They are standing under the Grace and mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I know Child of God in the house that Timothy built but they are not trusting that house or Timothy for Salvation they have bowed their head and put their feet on the path following the foot steps of The Lord Jesus Christ.

I know people who worship in a house built on Christ displayed on the day of penticost and the 40 year history of the acts of starting the churches But when they soak their pillows at night making intercession it is the Lord standing next to them saying amen, let it be so. But they do not trust in those tears counted or the angels sent to do his bidding They trust In The Lord of Their Salvation.

There are many houses in our fathers kingdom but One Lord and One who saves.

If people think the house God built for Paul on Christ is The only house to serve in the kngdom of heaven they are fools and should ask the Lord to remove their scales

Edited September 6, 2017 by Reinitin

[frienduff thaylorde]

HOW do you know any doctrine is false .     HOW do you KNOW any scrip has not been rightly divided.

A HINT.    IT WILL CAUSE YOU TO DISOBEY SOMETHING JESUS TAUGHT.    EVERY TIME.  ya know why...........cause its of satan.

AND that is his job.  TO GET US TO DISOBEY CHRIST .   Ever ponder that .

The devil will even use men to bring the old test into it.   An example is

EYE FOR EYE , TOOTH FOR TOOTH.    And they will justify why they did this or that to a person.   YET what did SATAN JUST DO.

HE deceived them into DISOBEYING JESUS.  for CHRIST said , YE have heard eye for eye , tooth for tooth, yet I say unto YOU

Love your enemies.   SEE CHRIST FULLFILLED THE LAW  HE LIVED THE LAW AND TUAGHT THE LAW THE WAY MAN SHOULD LIVE IT.

that we are NOT GOD who is the ONLY JUDGE.  a good example of this is the adulteress .   When they asked him LORD it says in the law

this one should be stoned.......but what say YOU.........HE DID NOT SAY DO NOT STONE HER.   the law had said too.

BUT HE WAS SHOWING THEM that the ONLY ONE who has the RIGHT TO BE the JUDGE OF THE LAW IS GOD, for all mankind has sinned.

and he was showing them the MERCY OF GOD , that GOD desires none to perish.  AND he warned the lady GO and sin less. NO he said GO AND SIN NO MORE>

But back to the point.   JESUS is the ONE who KNOWS HOW MAN SHOULD SEE < SEE < SEE THE LAW.  that we should LIVE IT , not be JUDGE OVER IT.

But satan is a deceiver.  Because he will come with scrips , and use them to get us to............DISOBEY JESUS.

THAT is why I have long said.....who understands the law better , us or CHRIST . and WHO IS OUR LORD, us or CHRIST . THUS KEEP HIS SAYINGS and LOVE THEM.

FOR HIS SAYINGS FULLFILL THE LAW AS HE FULLFILLED IT BY Living it.   HE SPOKE IT , HE LIVED IT.   thus by HIS SPRIIT we are to do the same.

HIS SAYINGS are KEY.    HE who loves my sayings LOVES ME.   TRUTH IS TRUTH amen.

But many men love their sin more than the TRUTH.  and thus will go around what JESUS said , even making doctrines to go around what he said.

ITS ALL BASED ON , they loved the darkness more than the LIGHT .   but want to FEEL saved .

[frienduff thaylorde]

Ever wonder why some teach its all good to be remarried .  FALSE DOCTRINE,

OTHERS might say remarriage word for word as JESUS DID........yet JUSTIFY WAR.

Others might say NO war, no self defense, no remarriage, YET HEAP AND STEAP MONEY

SEE the point yet.   they do NOT follow Christ .  they may keep some of his sayings.......BUT what their hearts desire truly is......THEY WILL TWIST that certain doctrine

to feel justified.  I SEEN it all the time.   ALL the time.

libs yelling at conservative churches......................both got their own sins, and are attacking the others sin.  BOTH GOD LOGS IN THEY EYES, only hate one another

only Judge one another , yet both sides wallow in sin and break JESUS sayings.  ANd point out the others faults.    OH .

OH YES.   in many cases I see this in many doctrines taught .  One church may keep seven of his sayings but omit and twist a few

antoher CHUCH honors most of His sayings but twists a few .  and their doctrines justify THIS.................

THEMS DEVILS.   But that is mans heart.   HE who loves mother , father , son , daughter , anything more than ME is not worthy of me.

OUR LOVE IS FOR TRUTH ABOVE ALL THINGS ............or we never knew him.   NOW LETS GO READ ALL HIS SAYINGS and examine ourselves today.

[frienduff thaylorde]

THE THING IS..............GOD PUT HIS LOVE OF TRUTH ON MY HEART ON DAY ONE.

Just as HE does all who truly come and came to him.  But as I said......lusts enter in.  THIS IS WHY we are to be our brothers keeper.

YOU sin error in one , YOU correct that one.  IF you love them.    IF not do as many and just hug them , tell them all is fine GOD is love .  but his blood will

be required .  THEIR WAS NO LOVE in one who can allow another to remain in sin.   NO LOVE it was HATE.  but the world thinks hate is love and love it hate.

its all mixed up now has been..........but when it found its way into churches galore.............where is the LIGHT for the world to SEE
when the LIGHT is now the DARKNESS OF the world and if that light be darkness........HOW GREAT IT IS>

 Iam so sorry , the churches are in shambles, to find a true teacher of GODS HOLY WORD is next to impossible these days.  NOT impossible , but man so very , very , very , very , very few DO.