Faith without works is Dead

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, frienduff thaylorde said:

THE THING IS..............GOD PUT HIS LOVE OF TRUTH ON MY HEART ON DAY ONE.

Just as HE does all who truly come and came to him.  But as I said......lusts enter in.  THIS IS WHY we are to be our brothers keeper.

YOU sin error in one , YOU correct that one.  IF you love them.    IF not do as many and just hug them , tell them all is fine GOD is love .  but his blood will

be required .  THEIR WAS NO LOVE in one who can allow another to remain in sin.   NO LOVE it was HATE.  but the world thinks hate is love and love it hate.

its all mixed up now has been..........but when it found its way into churches galore.............where is the LIGHT for the world to SEE
when the LIGHT is now the DARKNESS OF the world and if that light be darkness........HOW GREAT IT IS>

 Iam so sorry , the churches are in shambles, to find a true teacher of GODS HOLY WORD is next to impossible these days.  NOT impossible , but man so very , very , very , very , very few DO.

The TRUE LIGHT has left most churches...........they preach darkness as light now, evil as good now , and good as evil now.  they put no difference

between the clean and the unclean.  they promise the evil life , so none repents.    I am so sorry, I truly am.   I weep for them.    WE in the falling away

and far worse it gets and will get.    These are the days so many generations have looked for, and yet this generation so few see .  JUST as in the days of noah

jus as in the days of lott.  so few SEE>

[Reinitin]

42 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

My GOODNESS this happens all the time.   THEY DO THIS , because inside them its what they wanted.

I have watched them take teachers intepretations of the bible.  AND DUNG POO it is, for it contradicts JESUS sayings.

They do it with once saved always saved.   They do it with calvin, Baptist, Methodist, catholic,  THEY ALL DONE IT.

MY oh my so many are not sitting under Christ , they are sitting under mankind, his interpretation of what MAN thinks it should mean.

But it goes even deeper than that.  THE WHY .   its because their flesh wants an excuse for sin.    some sin, whether it be remarriage, whether it be storing up money

what ever their lust is.........they will SIT UNDER the teacher OF that lust so as they can FEEL SAVED . FEEL saved.   FEEL saved and still have they lust.

THAT is the whole reason this was done.   Years back JUSTIFIED war.  JUSTIED Christains killing for a holy righteous cause.

THEY Do things like this all the time.   But, it is because they love something MORE THAN JESUS.   And wont let it go.   THIS IS WHY all false doctrines began

and why men sit under them.  TO FEEL SAVED.   while in whatever lust it is they wanted.  For it wont be preached as a sin.   

you gotta remember God let all these houses get built on the cornerstones and revelation. We all serve him in these houses. It has all gotten currupt cause we are subjected to decay in hope for sons But he shakes them and sends storms against them  and everything that is not on the foundation of Christ sinks or breaks away.

Edited September 6, 2017 by Reinitin

[Reinitin]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Paul was an Apostle sent by God. Augustine was not, Calvin was not, Timothy was not. What in Paul's writings contradict God's Word? Paul explained some mysteries (e.g. rapture, Church, status of Israel etc.). 

I think the truly foolish, are the ones who dismiss Paul's Words as if they are the same as others.

who in here is sharing Christ who paul priclamed and peter priclaimed and james proclaimed and acts proclaimed and the gospels give eye witness to and his words? You standing on paul? he wont hold you up He told you to stand on Christ. 

[Heleadethme]

There is such a thing as pure doctrine......a plumbline......that each one is accountable to seek out and walk in.  Jesus is the plumbline, His words which are our doctrine, and how He lived and walked.  The apostles and prophets are the foundation built against that plumbline (cornerstone).  Obeying the Lord should just be in simplicity, not with fanfare and expecting a pat on the back........it's just our reasonable service.  If we love the Lord and fear Him, we want to please Him.  It's the  carnal mind of man which is always being fed by the impure stream of the serpent that makes something out of pure simple doctrine that it isn't.  So that's why we need the mind of Christ, the Help of the HOLY Spirit who feeds a pure stream to the mind of Christ in us.  Jesus prayed for us to be one.......for all to have the same mind of Christ, so why would the Father not answer His prayer?  I believe it is possible......and certainly that is what we should always aim for, to be true to plumb.  The alternative is to accept error and leaven as normal, rather than endeavouring to keep the house clean.  Jesus was eaten up with zeal for His Father's house, it bookended His ministry......driving out the corruption, not accepting it as normal.

Boy if every preacher/pastor/teacher did nothing but to stand up and read the scriptures out loud Sunday after Sunday, and just believe and accept it all as true, we would start to see a very different church pretty quick..........how about that for a Law......only the words of God allowed in every pulpit and let the mouth of man be stopped.  I would love it.......might even start to go to church again.  But I know it's just a dream....

[Reinitin]

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

I'm not standing on Paul. He was an Apostle sent from God to the Gentiles (just as Peter was sent to the Jews) of who I am one. I am to listen to Paul, as the other Apostles and Jesus. There is  no contradiction amongst them. It is beginning to sound as if you have a bit of a problem with Paul.

The words of Paul and Peter are just as much the Word of God as the words of Jesus recorded by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

He was a man used as a mouth piece of God Lord bless him he ran a good race. Some of his letters chosen as canon some were not.

[Reinitin]

3 hours ago, Yowm said:

Was the 'foolish' Galatians doing God's Will by following the teaching of the Judaizers rather than Paul's? Truth matters. "Different teaching' is just a politically correct word for heresy.

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? (Gal 3:1-3)
 

God often uses the law to humble us as we see in Rom 7.

There it shows beautifully the futility of attempting a righteous walk by the law be he saved or unsaved. It takes the Cross  and the Spirit.

I agree but the Lord takes all these things and in hope on not limiting his work like an artist dipping in this color and that. a dot hear, a bush stoke their does the Fathers will in man. To think for a second he only uses one color and one brush for his purposes is incredible. some people find Christ in that book,"The Shack". and he starts walking with them before they even open a bible. He can testify for salvation with a song, a leaf and a breeze.

[Reinitin]

7 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Which ones of Paul were not chosen as canon?

study:)  if the Lord saves a drunken man in a hotel with a song and memories of his grandmas prayers. who man to say your not saved unless you agree with my doctrin of Pauls words?

[Bro.Tan]

7 hours ago, Word-Sword said:

Hi BT and God bless! I believe one cannot have faith in God without eventually manifesting it with works. The statement "faith without works is dead" to me means that there is no faith (dead; nonexistent) if there eventually are no works or if they discontinue manifest them, because God ensures that everyone who is born again will "desire and do His good pleasure" (Phil 2:13). Those who profess faith and do not continue in the manifestation (works, e.g. fruit of the Spirit) of it never had it, but is merely professing it, i.e. "A man may say" (Jam 2:18); attempting to honor Him with their "lips" but the "heart is far from" Him (Mat 15:8).

God Be Blessed!

I agree

[Heleadethme]

18 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

I agree but the Lord takes all these things and in hope on not limiting his work like an artist dipping in this color and that. a dot hear, a bush stoke their does the Fathers will in man. To think for a second he only uses one color and one brush for his purposes is incredible. some people find Christ in that book,"The Shack". and he starts walking with them before they even open a bible. He can testify for salvation with a song, a leaf and a breeze.

Not sure of your point with these things sister.  Haven't read the Shack and don't know much about it but I have heard it is off the rails as far as the gospel is concerned..........so..... what happens after someone meets Christ.........do they believe a book like the Shack and think the gospel is like that.........is it an accurate portrayal, a true Jesus they have received and begin to follow.  We are transformed by the washing of the water of HIS word......if it isn't HIS word can a person really be saved?  I'd want to test that spirit.  Even if they have met Christ, they will no doubt seek fellowship with others believers, probably head to a church......and then will they be taught and see an example of a pure gospel?  Are there any watchmen on the walls to see that it is pure doctrine going forth?  What did the apostle write.........that if anyone, even an angel, comes preaching another gospel let them be anathema.......scripture doesn't teach that we are supposed to be neutral and indifferent and just assume it's going to work out for everyone.  We are supposed to CONTEND for the faith........and we are our brother's keeper.

[Bro.Tan]

19 hours ago, Reinitin said:

Bro.Tan what is your read on Jesus's words in luke 17 check out verse 10 in context. it is so true we should say it is what we should of done anyway. No glory in righteousness for that one is there? But to believe in the one God sent be proptiation for our sin 1 john 2. Righteousness in Christ is loaded with promise. 

Let's go into Luke 10:7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat? Sometimes this is the spirit to have, remember Jesus wash the apostle feet, given us an example. 

8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink? This  is most likely the world's way of ruling

9 Doth he thank that servant, because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. 

10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitableservants: we have done that which was our duty to do. Because your reward is in Heaven, For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his holy angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. (Matthew 16:27) Sometime the Lord will pour out small blessing upon a soul in doing good, but pay attention to what Jesus says in (Matt. 5:16) Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Sometimes as a Christian you don’t have to say a word, people will see your works.

Start posting scriptures and verse my friend