Faith without works is Dead

[Wayne222]

22 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Good for Calvin, he also believed John 6 was speaking of the Lord's Supper but Luther didn't. Good men differ on Rom 6.

It's faith in the atoning work of Jesus that brings us right with God, not getting wet. We get baptized out of a thankful heart of obedience...not to 'get right' otherwise we 'get right' by works.

" But if one does not obey the commandment to be baptized they have a wrong attitude."...agreed.

 

The whole thing is it's a commandment. It's not negotiable.  I know you know that. But others here think it's not too important. I really do think the context of Romans 6 is water baptism. But yes water does not save us. Faith in Jesus as the lamb of God. Still I wonder about any who disregards baptism.

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[Guest]

3 hours ago, Reinitin said:

okay.. this is how i see it..

parable of the sower (four soils) it is in math 13, Mark 4, luke 8 i think. 

Seed is the Word right?

good ground is able to listen, see and recieve the mystery's? (2 account mystery is plural since you like paul he revealed the mystery of being changed in a twinkle of the eye. Mysery of Christ, mystery of the gospel and the church in the letter to Timothy mystery of Godliness.

So we cast out the Word from the Kingdom of God the mystery (hidden purposes, Will of God, Works of God through Christ, Works of Christ through man, ect)...

Virgin birth, Son of God. Some of this seed didn't fall on Good ground. There are people that twist this into a doctrin of man. Say God has no son. Wasn't a virgin birth.

We take the seed of the word and the mystery The Word of God is Christ. In the beggining was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God.

It doesnt fall on good ground so it even gets twisted to a perverted teaching and a bible of false witness that says. In the beggining was the word and the word with God and a god. 

So we take the seed the Word of God. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

I have no idea how but this seed is not always recieved in good soil either and gets twisted into God hates Sin and sent his Son to condemn the world.

Now I take the Word of the Lord Who is King of the kingdom. baptize them that believe in the Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. With what type of Soil have you recieved it?

Jesus said in Mark 4 (I think could be luke) If you can not understand this parable how can you understand any thing?

He also says  

 He answered them,“Because the secrets of the kingdom of heaven have been given for you to know, but it has not been given to them. For whoever has, more will be given to him, and he will have more than enough. But whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. For this reason I speak to them in parables, because looking they do not see, and hearing they do not listen or understand.

So in many places we are told listen! See! to be able to understand but we are never told be shallow groud, dry rocky ground, or thorny ground. 

I throw the seed of The Word of God.. Jesus said "be baptised" why are you swooping down to rob the seed of the Word of God? Why are you pocking at peoples eyes to blind them and trying to stop up ears from hearing The Word of the Lord? and high fiving people that condemn and bare false witness against people that post The Word of God?

are you afraid of water?

are you afraid people will hear the word and obey?

are you afraid of having a religious Spirit? I don't get what would complell you to attack anyone posting The good seed of heaven givin to us by Christ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

[Wayne222]

32 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I know I was water baptized 4 months after receiving Christ and baptized with the Holy Spirit. The water baptism added nothing to my walk except a good conscience that I had been baptized and stood as a witness at the time.

It should have meant more I think. Christ is there at baptism.  

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

It should have meant more I think. Christ is there at baptism.  

You mean like the catholic eucharist? Is that how Christ is there Wayne?

We are indwelled by the spirit the split second we are justified.

Do we get another helping of Christ or something?

[Wayne222]

16 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

You mean like the catholic eucharist? Is that how Christ is there Wayne?

We are indwelled by the spirit the split second we are justified.

Do we get another helping of Christ or something?

Christ presence is in all signs. Both supper and baptizing. Not his flesh and blood. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

Christ presence is in all signs.

What signs?

[Wayne222]

The Lord supper is a visble sign of the blood and flesh of Jesus. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 hour ago, Blueyedjewel said:

 

 

 

     

That is a lot of art work jewels.    I guess lil pard figured out why we don't poke the hornet nest.    them things was all over him like wet on rain.  

[frienduff thaylorde]

Good night that poor lil thing was poking on the wrong nest.   All I seen was a swarm of ugly all over him.  He was fanning like his head was on fire and his shoulders

was catching quickly.    the other poor thing gonna have a nasty head ache with that brick wall.

Yowm found a funny one the other day...............

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

The Lord supper is a visble sign of the blood and flesh of Jesus. 

No it isnt. It is done in rememberance.

1 corinth 11:24 “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”” 25In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”…

stick to scripture