False Prophecy: Sept. 23rd

[Amazing Horse]

7 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

who prophesied this date?

There is no september 23 date in bible so probably some youtube dork

There is feast of trumpets tho on 21/22 september

[other one]

 

18 hours ago, Yowm said:

Who is behind this 9/23 garbage anyways?

There are always people who are trying to find the date for the rapture.  In this case the vision that Rev 12 states will be in the sky at that time.....  hasn't happened at least since Adam and Eve walked the earth. So it really is a unique happening.

Problem is that there really isn't anything in that chapter that speaks of the rapture or the end of the world.  It does speak of Satan being thrown down to our reality and his serious war with the Jewish people and Christians.

But there are hundreds of thousands who are all trying to be the first to declare a date for the end that all kinds of predictions pop up and once a couple hit YouTube, like threads here, everyone has an idea and people start stringing things together that don't belong together and if you don't agree with them then you must be really stupid.

Same thing happened with Y2K and 2012.   At least 2012 had a movie to spread the nonsense.  And then people start grouping everyone who has any idea in with the worst of it and it all goes crazy.   I still have people here that say I said it was the end of the world.......  And I never said that because I spent the time to really go and see what the Mayians really thought about their calender stopping on that date.

We've had Tom Horn called a false prophet here over the 2012 thing and he never said it was the end of the world either.  Same thing is happening again.  By the way Tom Horn has always told people he was not a prophet.

Whose behind it........  many working for the dark side. Some who know it and some who dont..   and some who just want to look important. 

And that is my thoughts on the subject.....  agree or not.......  no big deal.  

[other one]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Just seems like these characters need to be made known so others can mark and avoid, not that all will avoid as there are always those hardcore blind followers as with Harold Camping.

There are way too many to I'D.  But, it does bother me that too many throw out the baby with the bath water

[Heb 13:8]

12 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, Inauguration as in "institute."   The Church is God's second institution, after the family.  Inaugurate means to mark the public institution of a policy or organization.

One of the greatest deceptions the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that the church was born at Pentecost, not conceived. 

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The Church did not come out of Israel.   The Church is not continuation of Israel.   The Church start IN Israel, but it is NOT from Israel.

Gal 6:16 is referring to believers.

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The Holy Spirit is God.  He was never "given birth."  He has always existed.   You are really engaging in false teaching and extremely sloppy handling of Scripture. 

Isa 26:18 is a rapture scripture describing the birth of the church that is soon to come. The Holy Spirit that indwells all believers shiloh.

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I am a student of the Hebrew language.   In Hebrew, "feminine" has nothing to do with being female.  In Hebrew feminine and masculine do not necessarily correlate to being male or female.  That's because in Hebrew there is no neuter.   Rocks and trees, tables and chairs and any other inanimate object is either masculine or feminine.

So while Ephratah is a feminine word, it is not referencing woman.  It is referencing a geographical location.  You don't know what you're talking about, and it really shows in your false teaching.

A student of the Hebrew language that cannot decipher the head and body study. In this late hour that we are in either you get it or you don't. Conception comes before birth. The conception of the church occurred at Pentecost, and the birth of the church is rapture.

Ephratah is also metaphorical language for Israel being God's wife and our mother. Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8 specifically states that Jesus Christ divorced Israel 2000 years ago and that Israel is the mother. But Jesus Christ is not giving up on Israel. Israel will be punished for their sins, which is the time of Jacob's trouble (the 70th week). In the end Israel will accept their Messiah on the Day of Atonement at the end of the 70th week. Micah 5:3 is referring to right now. Israel has been pregnant for 9 months. Jupiter entered Virgo's womb in November of 2016. Israel is our mother, and she has been pregnant with the body of Christ up until now.

Micah 5:3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor bears a son, and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites.

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No, Rev. 12:5 is a reference to birth of Jesus and nothing else regarding "birth."   You are trying to twist the Scriptures in order to justify your disobedience to Christ, in calling him a liar.  

I am not going to buy into your false teaching.

No, Rev 12:5 is a reference to the head and body being joined together. shiloh, Jesus was already born 2,000 years ago. His part is done, finished, over. Rev 12:5 is not referring to past events. Rev 12:1-5 is referring to corporate entities; Israel (the woman), the antichrist system (the red dragon also in Rev chapter 13) and the body of Christ (the child being born). This is a future prophecy in regards to the body of Christ being born through rapture. Scripture does not use the word "harpazo" to describe Jesus ascension. "Harpazo" is for the church only.

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You are trying to pencil the church into a passage that has nothing to do with the church.   The church is already out of picture in Revelation 12. And to try and force teknon to mean church only further demonstrates that you are a false teacher.   Cults and false teachers are always applying meanings to biblical words that are invalid, as you are doing here.

The church is not the child of Israel and you have no biblical support for that.   You are twisting Scripture and all true Christians are well advised to avoid listening to you.

Well, if you study the word "teknon", it's a plural reference to a body of people. Who else is harpazo'd in Rev 12:5 if not the church? Please study your Greek before calling people false.

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No, no one needs to tell him that.  someone needs to better instruct you on what Rev. 12:5 really says, because you are twisting it.

[Guest shiloh357]

13 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

One of the greatest deceptions the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that the church was born at Pentecost, not conceived. 

No, the deceptions are coming from you.   You must be the leader of a cult or something.

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Gal 6:16 is referring to believers.

It refers to Jewish believers as the "Israel of God."

 

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Isa 26:18 is a rapture scripture describing the birth of the church that is soon to come. The Holy Spirit that indwells all believers shiloh.

It doesn't depict the Holy Spirit giving birth to the church.

 

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A student of the Hebrew language that cannot decipher the head and body study. In this late hour that we are in either you get it or you don't. Conception comes before birth. The conception of the church occurred at Pentecost, and the birth of the church is rapture.

I know enough not to buy the snake oil you're peddling. 

 

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Ephratah is also metaphorical language for Israel being God's wife and our mother. Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8 specifically states that Jesus Christ divorced Israel 2000 years ago and that Israel is the mother.

No, in Isa. 50:1 God is talking to Judah and asking her where her mother's bill of divorcement is. Israel and Judah are sisters in Jer. 3:8, not mothers.

Sorry, but I am not buying into your sloppy exegesis.

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Israel has been pregnant for 9 months. Jupiter entered Virgo's womb in November of 2016. Israel is our mother, and she has been pregnant with the body of Christ up until now.

Well, you can believe that silly garbage if you want, you are pretty much entrenched in your false teaching.   I guess when nothing happens on Friday, you will see how ridiculous your teachings are.

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No, Rev 12:5 is a reference to the head and body being joined together. shiloh,

Not according to those who are filled with the Holy Spirit and can discern truth from error.  

 

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Well, if you study the word "teknon", it's a plural reference to a body of people. Who else is harpazo'd in Rev 12:5 if not the church? Please study your Greek before calling people false.

I looked it up and you're simply out in left field.   You don't' know what you're talking about and it is sad that you're allowed on here to spew this trash.

[Heb 13:8]

12 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

who prophesied this date?

God put Rev 12:1-5 in the stars on 9/23/17.

The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28

6 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation 12 is about the Lord, Israel, and the devil .... the is no inclusion of the "church"

Those who do it are false teachers

If only people would study more, there would be less confusion. 

1 Thess 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up (harpazo) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Rev 12:4-5 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born.   5  She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.

5 hours ago, exrockstar said:

I recently (yesterday) heard that the church was conceived on Pentecost and will be "born" during tribulation. That's a pretty ridiculous claim. That would mean the bride is an infant. Unforunately there were plenty of "Amen's" in that Youtube video.

-Rev

You mean "child of God"? 

(1.) Virgo is Israel (our mother) Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman), Gal 4:26, and Jupiter is the body of Christ (the child) Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:26, Col 1:18, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5

(2.) The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5

2 hours ago, other one said:

Problem is that there really isn't anything in that chapter that speaks of the rapture or the end of the world.

The word "harpazo" is in 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5. Harpazo is for the church only. God Bless.

[Heb 13:8]

14 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

No, the deceptions are coming from you.   You must be the leader of a cult or something.

2,000 years of brainwashing, believing the church was born and not conceived at Pentecost. I can see how it would be confusing..

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It refers to Jewish believers as the "Israel of God."

No shiloh, it's not. It's referring to all those who come to faith in Jesus Christ, which is the body of Christ.

Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.

Gal 6:16 May God's peace and mercy be upon all who live by this principle; they are the new people of God.

2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

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It doesn't depict the Holy Spirit giving birth to the church.

Actually, this passage is a clear depiction of the woman giving birth, first resurrection, rapture, and God's wrath (the 70th week.). The word "rooms" in Hebrew here is translated "chamber"... http://www.bridalcovenant.com/wedding1.html

Isa 26:17-21 As a pregnant woman about to give birth writhes and cries out in her pain, so were we in your presence, Lord. 18We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind. We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life. 19But your dead will live, Lord; their bodies will rise— let those who dwell in the dust wake up and shout for joy— your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. 20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. 21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

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No, in Isa. 50:1 God is talking to Judah and asking her where her mother's bill of divorcement is. Israel and Judah are sisters in Jer. 3:8, not mothers.

Isa 50:1
em: a mother
Original Word: אֵם
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: em
Phonetic Spelling: (ame)
Short Definition: mother

Micah 5:3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor bears a son, and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites.

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I looked it up and you're simply out in left field. 

I'm  sure you did.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I'd say the bath water is dirty and there is no baby!.

Now that was funny!! I dont care who you are!

[Guest shiloh357]

1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

2,000 years of brainwashing, believing the church was born and not conceived at Pentecost. I can see how it would be confusing..

No shiloh, it's not. It's referring to all those who come to faith in Jesus Christ, which is the body of Christ.

Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.

Gal 6:16 May God's peace and mercy be upon all who live by this principle; they are the new people of God.

2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

Actually, this passage is a clear depiction of the woman giving birth, first resurrection, rapture, and God's wrath (the 70th week.). The word "rooms" in Hebrew here is translated "chamber"... http://www.bridalcovenant.com/wedding1.html

Isa 26:17-21 As a pregnant woman about to give birth writhes and cries out in her pain, so were we in your presence, Lord. 18We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind. We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life. 19But your dead will live, Lord; their bodies will rise— let those who dwell in the dust wake up and shout for joy— your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. 20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. 21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

Isa 50:1
em: a mother
Original Word: אֵם
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: em
Phonetic Spelling: (ame)
Short Definition: mother

Micah 5:3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor bears a son, and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites.

I'm  sure you did.

Not going to waste any more time on a false prophet.   It's a good thing for you that this is not ancient Israel.

[Heb 13:8]

15 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Reading the proponents of this crazy theory since you last posted this, I'd say the bath water is dirty and there is no baby!.

Oh there's a baby alright.. Rev 12:1-5 is not a crazy theory, it's in the Word of God Yowm.

Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.   2  She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.   3  Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.   4  Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born.   5  She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.

God Bless.