Be A Virgin Untill Marriage

[LadyKay]

8 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

From a Christian perspective, I have been involved in supporting clinics that have old but usable Ultrasound scanners. When deployed with gentleness and humility, almost 99% of the women that could see their baby was a living soul, agreed (with help) to give birth and abandoned the idea of abortion.

I would support more of this. We have a pregnancy center in my area that my church helps with support by asking people to bring in baby items. I think a lot women are frighten and overwhelmed at finding out they are pregnant. They don't know what to do. They may not have the support of a loving family. More places like these could help them to choose life over death. 

[LadyKay]

6 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, "Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37 percent), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28 percent) or that they had no religious affiliation (27 percent). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75 percent of these were Protestant.”

I can see that happening. As I would think that many who grew up in very religious households( I said religious not necessarily Godly) may not be able to talk to their parents about birth control. It is more of "just don't do it" kind of attitude. But then two young people get together alone and well things happen that they did not think was going to happen. 

 

This is a nice discussion we are having. Thank You. 

 

 

[Justin Adams]

 "I think a lot women are frighten and overwhelmed at finding out they are pregnant."

Imagine this:
Most every church has room for an ultrasound machine. Some are even portable. Many hospitals upgrade and junk the old black and white ones.

Imagine most churches actually saving lives and potential souls for Yeshua this way. Giving them a CHANCE at life. A chance at exercising that free will they deserve.
Most churches' budgets can handle this and those empty buildings most week days could easily be run by volunteers to help these ladies.

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, LadyKay said:

two young people get together alone and well things happen

This is a nice discussion we are having. Thank You. 

Kids are bombarded with sex. They do the social media unrestricted, and Holly-weird promotes what the society wants. It has not changed in forever...
There is just no need for murder to be the solution. As you may have noted, people can be so very disingenuous when necessary and the heart of mankind is desperately wicked. 

Society has become a quick-fun and quick-fix anomaly. Neither does quick fun work in the long run, and the psych nonsense of the fix is a joke! It is a machine of madness churning out basket cases of disorder.

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, Davida said:

The religious affiliation stat is meaningless and people will make whatever fabled  inferences from it that they want.  It can just as easily shows that Cultural influence tops over  any religious moral influence in their lives.

Agreed:
Do you recall Hamlet's statement? "..something is rotten in the state of Denmark".
I would not blame 'the church'. It is just sad that so many in various churches seem to do as the world does. It is not my church, it is God's.
However, as noted, some Christians are opposing the tide of Abortions to set up volunteer clinics with Ultrasound machines.
They are not arguing with anyone, and have little political clout. But they are putting their beliefs in the sanctity of life, into action.
"All that is necessary for evil to abound is for good men to do nothing."

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[LadyKay]

1 minute ago, Davida said:

It sounds you are trying find some drama to justify Killing the unborn babies. 

That is a terrible thing to say about me and besides that it is untrue. Why would you say that about me? And some don't believe me on here when I complain that I will be bashed for  speaking my mind freely. 

[simplejeff]

These (excerpts below) are not isolated incidents/ thoughts/ ideas/ posts ---  it is round and round daily sometimes......... (with dozens of posters, not just on this thread;  so many from all over the world)

verifying Scripture is TRUTH:   (Scripture obeyed brings peace)

1 Timothy 2:11-14 KJV - Let the woman learn in silence with all - Bible ...

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A11-14...KJV

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

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  I am utterly shocked, terribly hurt and offended because you keep taking the meaning of my words wrong I may as well never ever say anything again.

That is a terrible thing to say about me and besides that it is untrue. Why would you say that about me? And some don't believe me on here when I complain that I will be bashed for  speaking my mind freely

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Answer to # 1. Because they are single and they had unprotected sex and got Pregnant.

Answer to # 2 Because they are single & they don't want a baby at that moment.

It sounds you are trying find some drama to justify Killing the unborn babies. 

My question is why aren't these women using some form of birth control that is readily and cheaply available for them?

So the question I would ask is why? Why do so many women feel the need to have an abortion?

What is it that is going on in their life that they feel they have to get rid of their unborn child?

Some may say it is out of selfishness. That maybe a reason for some. But I don't think it is the reason for all of them. I see this topic is going to cause me to spend much time researching.

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[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

I would not blame 'the church'. It is just sad that so many in various churches seem to do as the world does. It is not my church, it is God's.

According to Scripture,  you may blame 'the church',  i.e. Judge Righteously,  not with your own judgement, but with Yahweh's Judgement , which is always truth.

As you judged rightly :   "churches seem to do as the world does"   (oops... :   "so many in various churches ....."   ) 

NOT seem to do ....  but actually truly do as the world does,  AND teach the same false ways as the world does ,   and live not as God's people but as people of the world .....  

THUS ,  so many visitors HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO LIVE ........... their teachers have taught them nothing good, or very  much wrong........

REMEMBER JESUS SAID to His Own disciples ^^^^^^ "I (Jesus) KNOW you (disciples) don't know how to live ;  SOME TO ME (Jesus) and I will teach you."     (not the churches will teach you (when they are worldly , carnal places) but I (Jesus) will teach you)....

The PRROF?

>>>    In all of the churches that DO as Jesus SAYS, "DOERS OF HIS WORD",  THERE IS NO abortion.  NONE.  ZERO.

And no confusion about this.  No arguing about this.   The members have been shown and taught the truth, Scripture.

[LadyKay]

10 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

These (excerpts below) are not isolated incidents/ thoughts/ ideas/ posts ---  it is round and round daily sometimes......... (with dozens of posters, not just on this thread;  so many from all over the world)

verifying Scripture is TRUTH:   (Scripture obeyed brings peace)

1 Timothy 2:11-14 KJV - Let the woman learn in silence with all - Bible ...

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A11-14...KJV

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

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  I am utterly shocked, terribly hurt and offended because you keep taking the meaning of my words wrong I may as well never ever say anything again.

That is a terrible thing to say about me and besides that it is untrue. Why would you say that about me? And some don't believe me on here when I complain that I will be bashed for  speaking my mind freely

.................................................................

Answer to # 1. Because they are single and they had unprotected sex and got Pregnant.

Answer to # 2 Because they are single & they don't want a baby at that moment.

It sounds you are trying find some drama to justify Killing the unborn babies. 

My question is why aren't these women using some form of birth control that is readily and cheaply available for them?

So the question I would ask is why? Why do so many women feel the need to have an abortion?

What is it that is going on in their life that they feel they have to get rid of their unborn child?

Some may say it is out of selfishness. That maybe a reason for some. But I don't think it is the reason for all of them. I see this topic is going to cause me to spend much time researching.

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------What?

[simplejeff]

3 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

------What?

When Scripture is learned and known and honored,  there is no sex ouside marriage, no abortion,  and no confusion from distracting speech in the assemblies.

When Scripture is not taught properly in the churches (the worldly churches),  there is little benefit to anyone, and much harm not only possible, but probable.