Hard to tell if you're born again

[MyLordsServant]

A lot of people, even atheists that don't know Christ; Have good hearts and natures, who's sin is convicted by their conscience. Some live more righteously than Christians.

If one of these was to come to know Christ, how would they discern between their old "good nature" and new heart? -If they wanted a sign of being born again. 

If they couldn't discern, then how would they know their faith is true? 

and

How would they discern if it's their new heart, versus instinct to follow moral laws in the Bible?

[simplejeff]

What is written ?     What separates and reveals even the thoughts and motives of a man's heart ? 

What divides so sharp,  even between as it were bone and bone marrow ?

[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, AscendedMasters333 said:

If they couldn't discern, then how would they know their faith is true? 

Who grants understanding, without which no man understands anything ?

[frienduff thaylorde]

33 minutes ago, AscendedMasters333 said:

A lot of people, even atheists that don't know Christ; Have good hearts and natures, who's sin is convicted by their conscience. Some live more righteously than Christians.

If one of these was to come to know Christ, how would they discern between their old "good nature" and new heart? -If they wanted a sign of being born again. 

If they couldn't discern, then how would they know their faith is true? 

and

How would they discern if it's their new heart, versus instinct to follow moral laws in the Bible?

The same way GOD did it for me    .   When one is truly drawn by GOD to Christ and reads that bible.   IN time they find out , THEY WERE NOT GOOD at all.

They only thought they had been.   Sin will become exceeding sinful, we become very aware of SIN , it becomes very evil to us through the knowledge of God.

This also leads to a very heavy knowledge of how dire ONE NEEDS CHRIST for he sees how truly wicked he is .   In our carnal nature

before God, we cant see all evil as evil.  often it appears as good .   BY the knowledge of GOD this all changes.

the more I read that bible under the power and influence OF the HOLY GHOST , the oh so aware I became of just how not good I thought I once was , but truly

how dire wicked my flesh is .     See as you said above a lot of people don't know Christ but have good hearts and natures,    NO they evil they just don't know it.

Evil is not what man perceives all evil to be.  EVIL is anything contrary to whole hearted love FOR GOD .  

Believe me their is none good , no not one .    And when one is drawn by GOD to Christ , He will show them this .   SIN will become EXCEEDING sinful , we become aware of how evil

it is and is our flesh.    When I was first drawn, as I said above,   I was put asap fast right in the bible with a love that came from GOD that LOVED TRUTH.

And it sure wont take long for TWO THINGS to occur.   SIN will become very evil , we will see ourselves in EXTREME upmost need for a savoir.

The Father alone drew me to Christ , but he put me in TORAH or bible, and man that school teacher took not time by the power of the SPIRIT to show me

NOT how good I was , or holy, BUT HOW WICKED to the core I was.  THAT led me RIGHT to CHRIST .   A DIRE UPMOST SENSE OF URGENCY TRUE NEED OF UPMOST FOR CHRIST ALONE.

you be blessed now .    Hope that helps.

[coheir]

5 hours ago, AscendedMasters333 said:

If one of these was to come to know Christ, how would they discern between their old "good nature" and new heart?

Atheist do not believe in God or gods; pew research says 8% do believe in some sort of god so most do not. Praying is a big part of Christian life ( I think ) so if one started to believe or get saved I would think they would start praying and caring what God thinks. If one does not believe in God surely they dont care what he thinks

[warrior12]

Romans 8    King James Version (KJV)

¹⁵ For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

¹⁶ The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

¹⁷ And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

[Neighbor]

10 hours ago, AscendedMasters333 said:

A lot of people, even atheists that don't know Christ; Have good hearts and natures, who's sin is convicted by their conscience. Some live more righteously than Christians.

If one of these was to come to know Christ, how would they discern between their old "good nature" and new heart? -If they wanted a sign of being born again. 

If they couldn't discern, then how would they know their faith is true? 

and

How would they discern if it's their new heart, versus instinct to follow moral laws in the Bible?

 "We" know, I know. God is not a trickster to deceive or leave any person in doubt.  

I know without a doubt what happened to turn  me about. I also know that each "born again saint" has their own testimony.  

Having attended many baptisms and hearing so many testimonies of coming to understand Jesus is Lord,  I know it is a personal and unique experience, it is not a mysterious thing that leaves one in doubt. It is very real and it is not subtle at all.