Jude1:3 Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Also, ask yourself why Jerusalem is "Spiritually" called Eygpt in this scripture where the 2 witnesses are killed: And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. • Revelation 11:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Retrobyter said: Shabbat shalom, Jude. Tell me this: If the New Jerusalem is a cube, what is its ROOF made of? Where is the mention of the ROOF? OR, is it open to space? OR, ... what? Well, it says that THE WALL IT SELF had 12 Foundations: Also she had A Great And High Wall with twelve gates....... • Revelation 21:12 Now The Wall Of The City Had Twelve Foundations,....... • Revelation 21:14 I don't think it even mentions a roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,584 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,443 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted November 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: Well, it says that THE WALL IT SELF had 12 Foundations: Also she had A Great And High Wall with twelve gates....... • Revelation 21:12 Now The Wall Of The City Had Twelve Foundations,....... • Revelation 21:14 I don't think it even mentions a roof. Shabbat shalom, Jude. Right. There's no mention of a roof ... which, by itself, would be an "argument from silence." Such arguments prove nothing, BUT we DO have several verses that call Yeshua` the "stone which the builders rejected" and the "head stone of the corner (Hebrew: pinnah = pinnacle)." The KJV and other English translations may CALL that a "corner stone," but it is actually a CAPSTONE, "the chief stone of the angle," and don't think that the Israelites didn't know what that was, having spent 430 years in Egypt! As I've said before, just because the Enemy ("haSatan" in Hebrew) may HIGHJACK a shape and use it for a symbol to its own evil purposes does NOT mean that he has OWNERSHIP of that shape! It was GOD who invented mathematics and the shapes that we know! It's just like the Enemy highjacking the RAINBOW for the LGBT group! Also, as I've said before, it was GOD who created the rainbow, and its purpose is to remind Him and us that He would NEVER AGAIN destroy the earth with a Flood! Also, where does the River of the Water of Life start? Revelation 22:1 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. KJV And, where is the throne supposed to be in a cube? In the center, right? But, where would the throne be in a pyramid? At the PINNACLE - the CAPSTONE! Now, the city is a three-dimensional city, since it is as high as it is long and wide. So, how does the River of the Water of Life get to the top levels of the city? By PUMPS?! What size of pumps would THAT require?! But, if the River of the Water of Life starts in the pinnacle, then all it has to do is FLOW DOWNHILL to reach the rest of the city and flow out its gates onto the New Earth, providing water for the area where "there is no more sea!" After all, isn't it reasonable that the street of the city would go to the gates of the city? Just some things to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jude1:3 said: Well, it says that THE WALL IT SELF had 12 Foundations: Also she had A Great And High Wall with twelve gates....... • Revelation 21:12 Now The Wall Of The City Had Twelve Foundations,....... • Revelation 21:14 I don't think it even mentions a roof. Its a city needs no roof. The building inside this city will have roof's, like building in any other city has roof's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, Retrobyter said: Now, the city is a three-dimensional city, since it is as high as it is long and wide. So, how does the River of the Water of Life get to the top levels of the city? By PUMPS?! What size of pumps would THAT require?! It would be God's power. No pump would be needed. Also, you do realize that God can still have His Throne above or even just in the middle without it having to have a Pyramid shape right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted November 25, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,584 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,443 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, HAZARD said: Its a city needs no roof. The building inside this city will have roof's, like building in any other city has roof's. Shalom, Hazard. True, but this city is over 1,300 miles high! The atmosphere thins to space long before that, between 200 and 250 miles, depending on where you first want to call it "space." Is it just buildings that jut that far out in space, OR could the city wall provide some protection to the city? The only dimensions we know about the wall is that it is at least the 1,300+ miles long and wide, and the dimension of 144 cubits of 21:17: Revelation 21:16-17 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. KJV The word "furlong" in verse 16 is the Greek word "stadion" in the plural: "stadioon." This comes from the Roman word "stadius," which is a measurement known all over Europe because of the Roman mile markers scattered there. The measurement of a "stad" is 607.14222... feet, making 12,000 stadia x 607.14222... feet/stad x 1 mile/5280 feet = 1,379.868686... miles. But, we are also told that the city... Revelation 21:12 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: KJV Now, 144 cubits (if we use 18 inches for a cubit) would be 72 yards. If a mile is 5280 feet x 1 yard/3 ft = 1,760 yards, 72 yards / 1,760 yards = 9/220ths of a mile! Could this be the height of a wall "great and high" compared to a city that is over 1,300 MILES high?! I don't think so. In fact, I believe that it is the measurement of the THICKNESS of the wall and that at its GATES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted November 26, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,584 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,443 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted November 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: It would be God's power. No pump would be needed. Also, you do realize that God can still have His Throne above or even just in the middle without it having to have a Pyramid shape right ? Shalom, Jude. Sure! God can do anything He wants to do! He is all-powerful, after all! BUT, why SHOULD He when He's ALREADY CREATED GRAVITY as part of His ORIGINAL Creation that He called "very good" (Gen. 1:31)?! And, as I've also already said several times now, it was GOD'S PYRAMID SHAPE FIRST! Why should He give up HIS OWN CREATIONS for the likes of haSatan?! Shouldn't He take back what is rightfully HIS?! It's not the pyramid that's evil! It's the USE of the pyramid for haSatan's purposes that's evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 26, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Again, Cubes are Not Pyramids and Cornerstones are Not Capstones. They are All different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 26, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 The Holy of Holies inside Solomon's Temple is Square like Not Pyramid like : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2017 How big must the new heaven-earth be? For the New Jerusalem to rest on its surface... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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