The Sabbath is not on Saturday or Sunday

[HarvestLabourer]

Thank you, Abdicate.

 

3 hours ago, Abdicate said:

It amazes me, that even with Jesus' own words there is such strife and ignorance about the sabbath. It really astonishes me how religious bias blinds so many and turns others away from the truth. The blind leading the blind.

All the more remarkable, for how simple it really is.
Because the sabbath is when we make our prayer to God.
It is when we take a rest from the world, and have a pray.

Most everyone will say they pray to God, in one way or another, at some time or another.
So most everyone is keeping sabbaths, however they proclaim to pray.  
It just makes sense to me, if we are praying the Lord, to do it after the order that He says,
lest He cause us to forget.

And the Apostles teach us how to make it.
Offer our self up as newborn babes, desiring to know His word.
Which is our reasonable service.

But rather than say "sabbath", nowadays it is said, "Call upon the name of the Lord".
Because everyone that calls upon the name of the Lord is saved.
When we call upon the name of the Lord, we offer our self up to Him. We are making a sabbath.
And if He "feeds" us, then we are saved. 

They asked me to do it, first time I went to Church, "offer your self up to Jesus", they said,
and they gave me the sinner's prayer to say (that I might adopt the right attitude).
And they said it is an essential thing we must to do to receive salvation.
Every Church I went to said it.

With the luxury of hindsight, and a few years meditation on the word, and looking back now,
I can see they are telling each newcomer to make the sabbath.
We can do it.

Praise the Lord 
Paul

And He hath violently taken away His tabernacle, as if it were of a garden:
He hath destroyed His places of the assembly:
the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion,
and hath despised in the indignation of His anger the king and the priest.
Lamentations 2:6

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14 hours ago, HarvestLabourer said:

Thank you WhenIsJesusComing.

I wasn't actually debating you, I was agreeing with you,
except for about the Calendar.

We are not to observe times.
 

Not many are able to believe.
 

Now I can say to you,
you know nothing about God's commandments and their importance.

You were saying how important they were, that even Jesus kept them all His life,
but you don't need to keep them?
And never let the Lord passover you?

I do, as often as I can.
And He does come quickly
Paul

He which testifies these things saith,
Surely I come quickly.
Amen.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20

Can you spot your own contradiction? Here let me show you:

You said: "We are not to observe times."

Then you said; "you know nothing about God's commandments and their importance.

You were saying how important they were, that even Jesus kept them all His life,
but you don't need to keep them?
And never let the Lord passover you?

I do, as often as I can."

So which is it, do you keep the Passover or don't you? Or is this all to do with the what the voice/s in you head are telling you?

 

I will repeat, seeing as you didn't take it on board the first time; We don't need to keep the Passover, that was merely one of the ritualistic Feasts and Holy Days the Jews (AND THE JEWS ONLY! NOT THE CHRISTIANS) had to keep in order for them to recognise the coming Messiah who would fulfil them. Jesus fulfilled 10 of the 12 Feasts and Holy Days. He will fulfil the 2 that are left, Atonement and Tabernacles, when He returns.

The importance of the Feasts for Christians is for them to know when our Lord is returning on the day of Atonement, this will be the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord when he will appear on the clouds. Five days later is Tabernacles when Jesus will return to the mount of Olives:

1 Thessalonians 5:4 – “You’re not in darkness for that day to surprise you like a thief.”

And:

Amos 3:7 – Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

  

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8 hours ago, Abdicate said:

Mark 2:27 (KJV)
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:  

It amazes me, that even with Jesus' own words there is such strife and ignorance about the sabbath. It really astonishes me how religious bias blinds so many and turns others away from the truth. The blind leading the blind. 

Revelation 3:17 (KJV)
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:  

 

You know this thread is not about keeping the Sabbath but when it is.

[HarvestLabourer]

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Can you spot your own contradiction? Here let me show you:

You said: "We are not to observe times."

Then you said; "you know nothing about God's commandments and their importance.

You were saying how important they were, that even Jesus kept them all His life,
but you don't need to keep them?
And never let the Lord passover you?

I do, as often as I can."

So which is it, do you keep the Passover or don't you? Or is this all to do with the what the voice/s in you head are telling you?

Thank you, When.
I appreciate your patient exhortation.

I said I do, and you asked if I do.

I don't observe it as a time, I observe it by doing it.
I don't keep a calendar date, but when I can take the time out of my life, I do it.
 

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

I will repeat, seeing as you didn't take it on board the first time; We don't need to keep the Passover, that was merely one of the ritualistic Feasts and Holy Days the Jews (AND THE JEWS ONLY! NOT THE CHRISTIANS) had to keep in order for them to recognise the coming Messiah who would fulfil them. Jesus fulfilled 10 of the 12 Feasts and Holy Days. He will fulfil the 2 that are left, Atonement and Tabernacles, when He returns.

The importance of the Feasts for Christians is for them to know when our Lord is returning on the day of Atonement, this will be the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord when he will appear on the clouds. Five days later is Tabernacles when Jesus will return to the mount of Olives:

Do you know what the difference is, between a normal sabbath and the passover?
I do not know.

Every time I make the sabbath, I hope the Lord passover.
For when He does then He feeds me.
 

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

You know this thread is not about keeping the Sabbath but when it is.

My apology, I thought I had addressed this.
I may be getting confused with another sabbath thread. 
The commandment tells us, we shall proclaim them in their seasons.

I confess, I don't find it easy to take time out of my life.
But when I do, Jesus comes quickly
Paul
 

These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations,
which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Leviticus 23:4
 

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9 hours ago, HarvestLabourer said:

Thank you, When.
I appreciate your patient exhortation.

I said I do, and you asked if I do.

I don't observe it as a time, I observe it by doing it.

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Well this thread is about when it is .

I don't keep a calendar date, but when I can take the time out of my life, I do it.
 

Do you know what the difference is, between a normal sabbath and the passover?
I do not know.

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If you read and understand the OP then it will be you who will understand that the Passover is always on a Sabbath. If you continue to ignore the OP then you will remain in ignorance about this. 

Every time I make the sabbath, I hope the Lord passover.
For when He does then He feeds me.
 

My apology, I thought I had addressed this.
I may be getting confused with another sabbath thread. 
The commandment tells us, we shall proclaim them in their seasons.

I confess, I don't find it easy to take time out of my life.
But when I do, Jesus comes quickly
Paul
 

These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations,
which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Leviticus 23:4
 

 

[Justin Adams]

Early eve Nisan 14: Yeshua ate the Passover with His disciples (last supper). Later the same day he was crucified.

Exactly 3 days and 3 nights later on the Sabbath, He arose.
A little while later it was the first day of the week.
Then He met Mary etc. BUT HE WAS RAISED ON THE SABBATH.

So OBSERVE the Sabbath for more than one reason. However your conscience dictates.

[HarvestLabourer]

9 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Early eve Nisan 14: Yeshua ate the Passover with His disciples (last supper). Later the same day he was crucified.

Exactly 3 days and 3 nights later on the Sabbath, He arose.
A little while later it was the first day of the week.
Then He met Mary etc. BUT HE WAS RAISED ON THE SABBATH.

So OBSERVE the Sabbath for more than one reason. However your conscience dictates.

For the Son of man is LORD even of the sabbath day.
Matthew 12:8

Come, and let us return unto the LORD:
for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up.
After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up,
and we shall live in His sight.
Hosea 6:1-2

Thank you, Justin.
Hallowed be thy day.
Paul



  

[HarvestLabourer]

13 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

 

Thank you, When.

The purpose of the sabbath is to come into the presence of the Lord. Isn't it?

According to Jesus, the Spirit is always willing.
It is us that is holding us back.
That is why we have got to set aside a time, some time, to not do what we normally do with our days.
And to not let our thoughts just wander randomly, as they normally do.
It is a sacrifice.
We are sacrificing our time. And we are sacrificing our desire to do our pleasure.
And we sacrifice any proud spirit in us that might spoil our holy day with Jesus.

The sabbath isn't anything esoteric or mystical.
It is when we make our pray to God. It is when we call on His name.
I don't think anyone denies they do that.

And it's how we have a rest from our lives.
Thank You Jesus
Paul

For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them,
and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters:
and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Revelation 7:17

[other one]

I think it's rather obvious that you are preaching Sabbath keeping.......       not just when it should be.......

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On 11/12/2017 at 10:56 AM, Abdicate said:

Yes, and I've answered that question too. I'm just going with the flow. Most don't even know what "keeping the Sabbath" is because they're blinded by man's traditions rather than the word of God. So when is it and keeping it are not mutually exclusive subjects. 

Yes they are: 

"Remember the Sabbath day, [when] by keeping it holy [how].