Helping the People of Israel

[Guest shiloh357]

Shiloh357,

I was living in Israel when the incidents you spoke of happened and I can back up what you are saying 100% !!  In fact even before I read your post I was thinking about the Mohhammed Al-Dura

story and the vicious way it was misrepresented through the media to the world. I can remember how in the Old City many shop keepers had a picture of this young boy hanging in their store with very anti-Israel things written below the pic. This specific incident was used early in the intifada to fuel the fire of hatred for Israel. First of all why did that father go home, get his son, and then deliberately take him to a place that was in an uproar? Those riots by the Palestinians were not spontaneous they were well planned and the men in the towns knew they were going to happen, so I conclude that Mohammed Al-Dura's father knew exactly what was going on in that place on that day.

He chose to put his son in harm's way. Secondly, after an extensive investigation , it was proven that it was NOT possible that this young boy was killed by the IDF. The IDF would have had to have magic bullets for them to traverse the course needed to kill the boy. The innocence of the IDF was known by the French camaraman who shot the scene and he chose to keep quiet and allow the world to believe the worst about Israel, because reporting the story their way was much more inciteful therefore creating more incidents to report on. Back to the idea that these situations were planned out.... it is a fact that the major news reporters would be approached in resturants and bars, while they were relaxing, and given flyers telling them at a certain place and at a specific time there was going to be an incident and that the reporters should be there early enough to get a good spot to report from. Often in these riots you would see the red cresent ambulances screeching to a halt in the midst of the rioters to 'supposdedly'

retrieve an injured Palestinian when in fact frequently these ambulances carried fresh Jihadists to the front line and extra weapons for all. If the Israelis did not allow the ambulances through they were accused of human rights violations and of being the worst kind of evil for not allowing the injured to be picked up. If they did let them through they were attacked by the new warriors with renewed vigor and were faced with even more fire power. There was no choice that wouldn't turn out bad for the Israelis.

And who can ever forget the two reservists who got turned around while driving and ended up in Ramallah?  They were treated in a manner that goes beyond barbaric !!! They were beaten to death in the police station by a mob and aided  by the police. Does anyone remember the one terrorist standing in the window holding up his bloody hands for the crowd below to see? While they were beating and killing these men one of the reservists cell phone rang. A member of the mob answered it , it was the soldiers wife on the phone looking for her husband, the Palestinian laughingly told her that they were killing her husband at that very moment and that she would never see him alive again. Then they tied the bodies of the men to the back of a car and pulled them through the streets of town - so mutilating their bodies that identification had to made through dental records and dna.

Once I actually saw a report on tv about a man who the Israelis had 'supposedly' killed in a riot. This man was being carried out of the hospital on a stretcher (with the obligatory mob), as they came through the door the stretcher was being jostled and slightly tipped, I saw the DEAD man reach out his hand and grab the door jamb to keep from sliding off the stretcher. That one was so outrageous that I had to laugh. I was sure that the truth was so obvious that the reporters would say something, but no they proceeded to tell the story of this man's heroic last days and his martrys death !  Unbelievable !!! 

Oh, and when the truth about Mohammed Al-Dura's death became a known fact why wasn't there the same level of reporting the truth as there had been reporting a lie?

These are just a small portion of many many such situations.

I am not saying that all Palestinians are bad terrorists or even that they all have the mob mentality. It would be wrong to generalize to that extent. However, it is dangerous for a Palestinian to have a differing viewpoint than the PA - hamas -islamic jihad- al-aksa martyrs brigade - etc.. thinking differently can get them killed for being an Israeli collaborator. This is the situation that Shiloh's professor found himself in ( escape or die ). I'm glad that he and his family were able to escape. Let's remember though that they needed to escape from the PA and not the Israelis.

While we lived there we worked with a ministry that helped the poor. This ministry has the largest food bank in Jerusalem, giving away over 2 tons of food per Day ! The majority of our food distribution is to Jewish orgnizations and individuals. However, before the intifada started we gave food to some places in Bethlehem and other Palestinian areas. When the intifada started the people in charge of these areas began to confiscate the food and divert it to the terrorists and away from the orphans, blind students, and other Christian Arabs that we were helping. Then they finally told us to not bring food, but to give them the equivilant value in cash. Being a benevolent organization does not mean we are stupid and so we declined the offer to be fleeced !!  This situation made it clear once again that these terrorists not only hate the Jews and Christians, but they don't even have a sense of loyalty to their own fellow Palestinians.

It is indeed a spiritual battle and it rages day and night. We must interceed diligently for the region and pray faithfully as we are taught in the Word --- Pray for the peace of Jerusalem !! We are not talking about a false peace or a phoney peace dictated by the world , EU, UN , but the peace of Yeshua that is perfect !!

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Thank you again, Sandy!!! Another brilliant post!

[sandy]

You're very welcome !! I loved my time in Israel and can hardly wait to return !! Every believer who has the opportunity to visit Israel should do so. I believe it will impact their lives more than they can imagine !!

[Guest yod]

Gee...did I just hear a pin drop?

Where did all the naysayers go?

[nebula]

Yeah - I noticed the same thing!

You did good, Sandy!

[sandy]

Thank you very kindly !! Or as we say in Israel - Toda Raba !!!

[sandy]

A good book concerning Israel is...

'Can Israel Survive In a Hostile World' by: David Allen Lewis

Also there are 3 books by Avi Lipkin (pen name - Victor Mordecai) concerning Islam that are very good. The first one is entitled ... 'Is Fanatic Islam a Global Threat'.

Edited April 18, 2005 by sandy

[O'Dannyboy]

Now more than ever Isreal needs our support. Keep them in your prayers. Let us not forget what times are ahead. We must do all we can to encourage and support those who profess Christs name in the Holy Land.

Matthew 23:39

[Guest And8]

    3 I will bless those who bless you, (Thats talking about Nations who bless Israel)

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Could it be that Americans are only out to be blessed, ie have only selfish interests at heart here???

Why the whole Iraq thing??? There were no WoMD found after all!!! But the oil keeps flowing, and America is the biggest consumer. Hmm, smacks to me of self-interest. And with motives like that exposed, what is the motivator behind 'helping Israel'?

[Guest shiloh357]

[Botz]

It would certainly be a pretty foolish thing for Christians to bless Israel being motivated out of selfish-ambition...those who are the L-rds know that He looks on the heart and not on the outward appearance...He will not be fooled by any amount of patronizing works on our behalf.

Gal 6:7 Don't be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.

A person who truely wants to bless Israel and the Jewish people...must be convinced in their own minds that they are fulfilling the command and direction of the L-rd...otherwise they will not be acting in faith.

Heb 11:6 Without faith it is impossible to be well pleasing to him, for he who comes to God must believe that he exists, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek him.

Christians need to have a personal revelation of the heart of G-d concerning His view of Israel and what the Jewish people mean to Him...because when you grasp the Fathers heart of love for the Jews...you cannot remain silent and there will come forth a 'shout' from within your spirit that is 'jealous' to see Israel and the Jewish people blessed...blessed...BLESSED.

Psalm 135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

It has not been plain sailing...and the relationship between G-d and His chosen people Israel has been a painful and at times disheartening affair....

Psalm 81:11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.

Psa 81:12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.

Psa 81:13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!

Can't you hear the anguish and pain in the Fathers heart for His people...the nation He chose to be a light to the Gentiles...a nation that would reflect the attributes of G-d Almighty Himself....or listen to the words of Jesus.

Luke 13:34 "Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, that kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, like a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you refused!

Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"

...but G-d has never forsaken them utterly and never cast them off completely...and always promised to bring them back to the land of their Fathers....and somehow in the plans of G-d ...Israel and the Jews play a major role in these end times we live in.

Eze 34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.

It is through the grace and mercy of G-d that we have been saved by the blood of the Lamb...the Passover Lamb...the Jewish Lamb...it is time for those who are part of the body of Messiah...the Jewish Messiah... to rise up and unreservedly seek to bless Israel and the Jewish people by showing them Yeshua...and demonstrating the love of Yeshua to them in whatever way possible.

Romans 11:11-12 I say then, Have they (Israel) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Psalm 106:48 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.