Reality Check

[Keith]

Hello Saints!

I hope you

[Christ's Free Servant]

Keith,

Very well written! I agree wholeheartedly!! This was obviously prompted by the Holy Spirit. Sadly, though, it is not a message too many people want to hear.

I truly believe that is why God is giving so many of his children dreams and visions of coming judgments, because he wants to wake the church up, and truly I believe the church will not be awakened unless they get a swift kick in the rear.

And, once they are awakened, then they will be able to see beyond themselves and see what God sees. And, it is then they will respond to His voice. It is then we will see a great harvest of souls. I truly don't see much of a change in the church in America w/o a swift kick of God's judgment first.

[Keith]

Sue,

I knew it wouldn't be the most popular thread on Worthy, but I trust the Holy Spirit's purpose will be accomplished with it. In general, people do not like to be challenged personally in this way. It takes courage, honesty and integrity to answer these questions truthfully. It's preaching to me just as much as to everyone else. I am the farthest thing from perfect that I know of.

[Guest Bro David™]

Hello Saints!

I hope you

[other one]

Keith, while I really do understand where you are coming from, and to a point agree, I do think we need this reality check.

Since I logged off a bit after noon and reset my new posts listings there have been posts on 46 different threads. Topics ranging from being last to jokes to mormons to Roman Catholics to prayer needs to verse studies and many many topics. I don't think that we as a whole focus too much on end time happenings. We do get heated and are not acting too christian like at times when these subjects come up, but that is a totally different subject and it is abused by all sides by a few people.

There are some who do spend a bit too much time only writing in the end time threads, but there are just as many or more that do not want any negative end time stuff talked about at all, and usually ends by those getting upset and getting all deleted.

Well the downer things really need to be looked at along with the rest, for we are warned that they are coming. Jesus told us that these things are coming and told us that he was telling us so we would know and understand and not stumble when they arrived.

It is my personal view that the problem is not the time spent talking about the end time things, it is the way it is discussed and there are a few that push the subject to hurtful levels quickly every time those subjects come up.

During the last thread that was stopped today someone suggested that I was a pretty miserable person who only thought about the dark side of the world, and nothing of the sort is the truth. I spend much much more time in the prayer needs threads than even reading those few end time threads, much less posting in them.

So I suggest we all really do a reality check and look through all the posts on the board and I think you will all find that end time stuff is a really small part of Worthy. However mistreating each other seems to spill over into all the threads from one time to another.

So my ask is for us to all treat each other like friends that we don't want to loose instead of remote acquaintances that don't matter. I think in a short time we will all need each other and no matter what subject comes up we need to be here for each other, if there is a here to be had.

Thanks for your post, for it made me step back and do that reality check.

[Keith]

other one,

I really appreciate your post. It gives me a chance to explain something that may not have been clear.

My comments were about Christians everywhere, not specifically those at Worthy. I never thought it might come across that way and I apologize if it did!

As far as the end times threads, that part was just a small portion of what I was talking about. Again, I didn't mean to imply that I thought Worthy members were going "end times crazy" or anything like that! LOL The point was meant for Christians everywhere who get "overly" caught-up in the end times and prophecies. I absolutely believe we need to be aware of these events when they occur, but I don't believe they are meant for us to call the team in from the outfield because we're saved and the game is almost over. They should be spurring us on to more action! God has work for us to do... are we willing to do it?

I brought it up as another example of something that seems to distract some Christians from going about our Father's business; that it's not just the things of this world that can distract us and cause us to lose focus.

My post was intended to gently put the brakes on and cause each of us to take a deep breath and see where we are at with God and our walk with Him. Are we focused on His business or ours? Have we let things/people distract us? Which future are we more concerned with... the temporal one on earth or our eternal one with Jesus? Just what is it that we are doing with our time? Have our priorities become skewed?

Thanks again other one, for the chance to clear up some things that may have needed to be! And thank you for taking the time to respond. I value your thoughts.

P.S... To get me to use a sports analogy is no small accomplishment! Kudos!

[Christ's Free Servant]

Keith,  while I really do understand where you are coming from, and to a point agree, I do think we need this reality check.

Since I logged off a bit after noon and reset my new posts listings there have been posts on 46 different threads.  Topics ranging from being last to jokes to mormons to Roman Catholics to prayer needs to verse studies and many many topics.  I don't think that we as a whole focus too much on end time happenings.  We do get heated and are not acting too christian like at times when these subjects come up, but that is a totally different subject and it is abused by all sides by a few people.

There are some who do spend a bit too much time only writing in the end time threads, but there are just as many or more that do not want any negative end time stuff talked about at all, and usually ends by those getting upset and getting all deleted. 

Well the downer things really need to be looked at along with the rest, for we are warned that they are coming.  Jesus told us that these things are coming and told us that he was telling us so we would know and understand and not stumble when they arrived.

It is my personal view that the problem is not the time spent talking about the end time things, it is the way it is discussed and there are a few that push the subject to hurtful levels quickly every time those subjects come up.

During the last thread that was stopped today someone suggested that I was a pretty miserable person who only thought about the dark side of the world, and nothing of the sort is the truth.  I spend much much more time in the prayer needs threads than even reading those few end time threads, much less posting in them.

So I suggest we all really do a reality check and look through all the posts on the board and I think you will all find that end time stuff is a really small part of Worthy.    However mistreating each other seems to spill over into all the threads from one time to another.

So my ask is for us to all treat each other like friends that we don't want to loose instead of remote acquaintances that don't matter.  I think in a short time we will all need each other and no matter what subject comes up we need to be here for each other, if there is a here to be had.

Thanks for your post, for it made me step back and do that reality check.

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Great response!!

[Gerioke]

I too have seen a lot of back biting and nail scratching and animosity, but I have also seen two people go head to head with name calling and judging and so on only to go into the next day lifting each other up.

We as people fall in the muck a lot, but God being God will come along and let his grace spill over into each and every one of us.

We do need to wake up and smell the coffee and hopefully we won't leave it til too late

[Christ's Free Servant]

other one,

I really appreciate your post.  It gives me a chance to explain something that may not have been clear.

My comments were about Christians everywhere, not specifically those at Worthy.  I never thought it might come across that way and I apologize if it did!

As far as the end times threads, that part was just a small portion of what I was talking about.  Again, I didn't mean to imply that I thought Worthy members were going "end times crazy" or anything like that!  LOL  The point was meant for Christians everywhere who get "overly" caught-up in the end times and prophecies.  I absolutely believe we need to be aware of these events when they occur, but I don't believe they are meant for us to call the team in from the outfield because we're saved and the game is almost over.  They should be spurring us on to more action!  God has work for us to do... are we willing to do it?

I brought it up as another example of something that seems to distract some Christians from going about our Father's business; that it's not just the things of this world that can distract us and cause us to lose focus.

My post was intended to gently put the brakes on and cause each of us to take a deep breath and see where we are at with God and our walk with Him.  Are we focused on His business or ours?  Have we let things/people distract us?  Which future are we more concerned with... the temporal one on earth or our eternal one with Jesus?  Just what is it that we are doing with our time?  Have our priorities become skewed?

Thanks again other one, for the chance to clear up some things that may have needed to be!  And thank you for taking the time to respond.  I value your thoughts.

P.S...  To get me to use a sports analogy is no small accomplishment!  Kudos!

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Thank you for posting this, Keith, and thanks, too, for this clarification. I am not generally a person who does computer boards, but I was led here while searching for more information to help me better understand what God was showing me about what is coming in the near future. So, I initially concentrated more time in the Prophecy area. Then, I ventured out to the General Discussion and from there have gone to other areas, as well, because there is a ministry on here and there are many people to get to know and lives to touch, etc. God is expanding my horizons, and I'm glad that he led me here to get to know all of you wonderful people. I know this is short lived and we're here only for a time, but I will treasure the time I had here with all of you.

[Keith]

I too have seen a lot of back biting and nail scratching and animosity, but I have also seen two people go head to head with name calling and judging and so on only to go into the next day lifting each other up.

We as people fall in the muck a lot, but God being God will come along and let his grace spill over into each and every one of us.

We do need to wake up and smell the coffee and hopefully we won't leave it til too late

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Thanks for responding, Gerioke!

While I agree with what you said, I again want to emphasize that this is NOT what my original post is talking about. I am not talking about Worthy members and their posts or the strife that can happen here occasionally.

I don't want this thread to turn into that. My point is that Christians everywhere seem to be more distracted by the world and it's treasures and worries than ever before. Sometimes even prophecy and end times events can get some Christians to lose their focus on what is really important..... Going about our Father's business of bringing the lost to Christ and fulfilling the call He's placed on our lives. We should be thinking towards our eternal life and it's rewards rather than spending so much time on our shorter futures here and trying to make our lives in this world really great. We need to beware of the distractions the enemy uses on Christians.