Bible Colleges / Universities

[Dennis1209]

I understand there may be a few people who went to Bible colleges / universities here at Worthy? I have a question?

To get a degree at a Bible university the curriculum includes; soteriology, eschatology, theology, angelology, etc. I've never attended a Bible college or Bible university but have heard on several occasions by those whom obtained degrees. That most Bible colleges do not include in their curriculum a study called Israelology? 

Is that true? If so that doesn't make any sense, as Israel is, behind the Lord Jesus Christ, a central figure in the Bible.

Maybe I'm listening to the wrong people?

[JohnD]

Church Organism / Church Organization... not the same!

 

[JohnD]

The Mormon cult states that the Bible is the word of God insomuch it is properly translated... through the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants... 

The Jehovah's Witness cult echoes pretty much the same thing citing their Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as the translation authority.

The Church Organization does pretty much the same thing without drawing much attention to it.

Denominational doctrines, dogma, platforms, and creeds... Catechisms, Papal Bulls / Decrees... and sometimes "ah heck that's just the way we always done it..." are the translation authorities.

No wonder there are so many divisions and contradictions in the Body Christian.

2 Peter 1:20-21 declares the Holy Spirit as the only interpreter of the word of God (which it says to know first of all).

1 John 4:1 indicates we are to test even what we believe to be the Holy Spirit to be sure it is actually him.

We do so by scripture (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 3:16-17).

This and a life time of rigorous Spirit-led Bible study has placed you way ahead of all Bible Colleges universities founded on the traditions of man.

[Neighbor]

5 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I understand there may be a few people who went to Bible colleges / universities here at Worthy? I have a question?

To get a degree at a Bible university the curriculum includes; soteriology, eschatology, theology, angelology, etc. I've never attended a Bible college or Bible university but have heard on several occasions by those whom obtained degrees. That most Bible colleges do not include in their curriculum a study called Israelology? 

Is that true? If so that doesn't make any sense, as Israel is, behind the Lord Jesus Christ, a central figure in the Bible.

Maybe I'm listening to the wrong people?

One excellent resource for information  on  Progressive dispensationalism, and on  Replacement theology will be found within the writings by  Zola Levitt and by Todd Baker.

 The battle against replacement theology  is perhaps in it's fourth decade now. Once excellent facilities of education have fallen victim to it via a textbook  that came into use promoting  the idea that the church has replaced Israel. You might want to research both Zola Levitt Ministries archives, and David Reagan  Lamb and Lion Ministries on the subject. As a head start here is a link to one article from Lamb and Lion http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-evil-of-replacement-theology/

To get you started at ZLM  here is a Levitt letter report, https://old.levitt.com/newsletters/1998-08.html

May your own research along with your prayer and reading of the word of God profit you in your inquiry.

[BeyondET]

10 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I understand there may be a few people who went to Bible colleges / universities here at Worthy? I have a question?

To get a degree at a Bible university the curriculum includes; soteriology, eschatology, theology, angelology, etc. I've never attended a Bible college or Bible university but have heard on several occasions by those whom obtained degrees. That most Bible colleges do not include in their curriculum a study called Israelology? 

Is that true? If so that doesn't make any sense, as Israel is, behind the Lord Jesus Christ, a central figure in the Bible.

Maybe I'm listening to the wrong people?

 

Well most bible colleges etc. are denominational, meaning your studying pretty much what the denominations want to be taught, do people need to spend thousands of dollars to learn the bible,, not in my opinion.

Edited December 24, 2017 by BeyondET

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, BeyondET said:

 

Well most bible colleges etc. are denominational, meaning your studying pretty much what the denominations want to be taught, do people need to spend thousands of dollars to learn the bible,, not in my opinion.

Lets reword jus a lil of that .      we will start after the comma.     Do people need to spend thousands of dollars to NOT LEARN what the bible says

but instead learn the dung that MAN says it says.     YEAH.  

[Neighbor]

 A worker is worthy his wage, and a good teacher a double portion.

Merry Christmas.

Practice does not make perfect that which is practiced in an errant manner. For repeating a bad move just insures the move though bad will be repeated. So coaching/teaching is a skill a gift from God that is used for the further sanctification of the saints. Praise God for the good teacher and blessed is the person that seeks them out and  becomes a cheerful student willing to generously compensate the good teacher so that they may  continue to do their good service.

[Dennis1209]

On 12/24/2017 at 2:29 AM, Neighbor said:

One excellent resource for information  on  Progressive dispensationalism, and on  Replacement theology will be found within the writings by  Zola Levitt and by Todd Baker.

 The battle against replacement theology  is perhaps in it's fourth decade now. Once excellent facilities of education have fallen victim to it via a textbook  that came into use promoting  the idea that the church has replaced Israel. You might want to research both Zola Levitt Ministries archives, and David Reagan  Lamb and Lion Ministries on the subject. As a head start here is a link to one article from Lamb and Lion http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-evil-of-replacement-theology/

To get you started at ZLM  here is a Levitt letter report, https://old.levitt.com/newsletters/1998-08.html

May your own research along with your prayer and reading of the word of God profit you in your inquiry.

Well Neighbor, as a matter of fact, that's exactly one of the sources I mentioned I had heard from, one of David Reagan's, Lamb and Lion Ministries Youtube video's. Imagine that! The thought really never occurred to me to connect it with the church replacing Israel? Then these days I suspect one has to be cautious selecting a Christian college to attend. 

It's also claimed that few Pastor's libraries will contain books or commentaries on that issue either. Very interesting. I don't get where they come up with this theology, the Bible is plain as day the church did not ever replace Israel and its promises, nor ever will. Two distinct groups, Israel (God's chosen people and heirs), and the gentiles grafted in to Salvation (the Church). Even someone as dense as me clearly sees the division? 

[Dennis1209]

On 12/24/2017 at 7:23 AM, BeyondET said:

 

Well most bible colleges etc. are denominational, meaning your studying pretty much what the denominations want to be taught, do people need to spend thousands of dollars to learn the bible,, not in my opinion.

Well, as far as I know, most churches and denominations seek seminary trained Pastors for the pulpit. 

[Dennis1209]

17 hours ago, Neighbor said:

 A worker is worthy his wage, and a good teacher a double portion.

Merry Christmas.

Practice does not make perfect that which is practiced in an errant manner. For repeating a bad move just insures the move though bad will be repeated. So coaching/teaching is a skill a gift from God that is used for the further sanctification of the saints. Praise God for the good teacher and blessed is the person that seeks them out and  becomes a cheerful student willing to generously compensate the good teacher so that they may  continue to do their good service.

I remembered that when our congregation recently voted our Pastor a pay raise. Good job!