JTC Posted February 18, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2018 That explanation was almost amusing. It soured like it was a Got Questions expose. They have a pattern to their answers. It was not was it. I have unique points of view. I just don't see things like most people do. So I expect you to disagree. There are a few times, not many, where God leaves us wondering. Being God He can make something seem sure to some people but not to others. Believe I am well aware that the traditional Christian answer to salvation is each of us must do it for ourselves. There are many churches, religions and denominations who slant it a bit different. I say the norm is that each person has to accept Jesus themselves. I agree for the most part. My problem with this is it paints God to be very willing to throw certain people into hell that probably don't belong there. Jere's another riddle. Remember when I said I have a hunch Jesus has a most unusual sense of humor/ But then mot a 1 of us could think of where we see what Jesus finds amusing. I admit never even spent much time on this question. It's in 1 Cor chapter 15 29 Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them?" I don't shine here I never even knew people were baptized for the dead. It raises some interesting possibility.I say this because it always hotbed me how quick and easily our loving God was able to put people to their deaths. He had the best of reasons. Better than I imagined. All I will say now is God has real enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted February 18, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, JTC said: are you saying that scripture means an unsaved person who is married to a saved one will be saved due to the mate's faith? Definitely no. Only Jesus saves, if you are in the faith and your wife or husband is not... If he/she remain an unbeliever (no faith), he/she will be condemned. "For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?" - 1 Corinthians 7:16 "I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left." - Luke 17:34 Edited February 18, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 18, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, JTC said: Believe I am well aware that the traditional Christian answer to salvation is each of us must do it for ourselves. The traditional answers are today not usually found in nor from Scripture, nor in line with Scripture. 4 hours ago, JTC said: There are many churches, religions and denominations who slant it a bit different. I say the norm is that each person has to accept Jesus themselves. I agree for the most part. My problem with this is it paints God to be very willing to throw certain people into hell that probably don't belong there. YHVH'S Justice is Perfect, and HE is Perfect in Judgment. There is no unrighteousness in HIM. Everyone will be judged righteously and perfectly, and YHVH'S Mercy will not impair His Judgment nor withhold it, nor allow someone to be condemned unjustly. Each person will be judged for what they do, and for what is in their heart, as shown throughout Scripture. Every word they speak in their life will be judged or accounted for, as written in Scripture. Few organizations on earth ever practice according to Scripture, YHVH'S WAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted February 18, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 6:31 PM, creativemechanic said: Was talking to a coworker and the topic of unequally yoked cameup. she explained that if when her pastor is doing marital counselling he realises the couple is unequally yoked (presumably 1 saved the other unsaved) , he refuses to marry them. that's a principle I never really thought of. what do u think of it I have no issue. A pastor has every right to marry or not marry someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted February 18, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, LadyKay said: I have no issue. A pastor has every right to marry or not marry someone. absolutely, that pastor is responsible to be scriptural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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