Why Christians Don’t (and Won’t) Support Gun Control

[enoob57]

Reading through this thread certainly reflects the confusion sin has brought into place... opinions run amuck and collective unity is impossible to assemble!

[simplejeff]

"Impossible" ?   Unity/ Union/ Agreement IN CHRIST JESUS?  

Read ACTS, Philippians,  Ephesians,  Hebrews,  Thessalonians .... see HOW YHVH Accomplished it. 

YHVH is ALIVE TODAY,  working Salvation through Yahshua TODAY , in the Ekklesia (called out ones, separated ones unto Himself).

They /we/ see in Scripture/  LIVE IN UNION IN Yahshua, DAILY, full of peace, joy and righteousness.

Completely as written in Scripture, in line with ALL Scripture, in Harmony with ALL Scripture in YHVH ......

Seek, and keep Seeking YHVH (God) and His Kingdom (on earth, as in heaven), by grace through faith in Jesus, a gift of YHVH according to His Word and His Plan.

[other one]

2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No limitations have been placed on them. It is incompetence and several of them should be fired and replaced.

 

I totally disagree with this Shiloh,    the upper people in Obama's administration has/have an agenda.....      Democrats have always not had a problem with sacrificing a few americans to get the general public to see things their way.....    it's not incompetence they have, it's just pure evil.

[enoob57]

It was my reflection not to expand upon...

[simplejeff]

Jesus tells all ekklesia set apart in Him by YHVH, born again and immersed in His Name:

Do as YHVH ABBA says.   His Word is TRUTH and does not change.

Union in Yahshua (Jesus),  is YHVH'S Accomplishment, not man's, ever.

And Always is in line with all of His Word,  no contradictions, as YHVH Permits and as YHVH Gives Growth in Christ Jesus.

[Heleadethme]

1 hour ago, shiloh357 said:

Life isn't perfect.  They incur friendly fire in the military and things can go wrong.  All in all, having armed guards and some armed teachers is a good thing given our climate, today.   They do this in Israel and they don't have one mass school shooting over there.  Their teachers are not armed, but they have armed guards in their schools and on school outings.  

Except the Lord guard the city, the watchmen waken in vain.  When it is the Lord Himself who has begun to fight against the nation.........oh boy, that nation's ONLY hope is to return to Him.

[Heleadethme]

3 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

They have no limitations placed on them as it regards the discharge of their sworn duties in the FBI.   It is gross incompetence that lets these killers slip through.

i can hardly believe this whole conversation is from the mouths of those who name the name of Christ......dont' we even read the bible?  Or maybe believing it is the problem.

What we call competence was never even of our own but was a blessing from God.........western peoples are certainly no smarter than the heathen, just that for a while we had been more blessed.....through the gospel.  Wasn't long ago that our people were running around in animal skins wearing antlers on our head, painting mud on our faces, and sacrificing to the bog gods, LOL.  Oh my, how we need to be more humble, we better know it wasn't of our own.  And it is the Lord Himself who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms.

So we were blessed for a little while, but now our people are coming under a curse and God is blessing the strangers in our midst to rule over us.........the very exact same judgment that the Lord sent Israel when she fell away from following Him.....watch for this to increase if the nation doesn't repent.  It is more clearly seen in Canada where I live, but will increase elsewhere as well, if there is no repentance and turning back to God.  We can try to explain it away that the FBI is bogged down with bureaucracy and incompetence, or we can acknowledge the truth that this is happening because the Lord no longer goes out with our "armies" any more, again just like with Israel of old when she sinned.  Guns are not the answer, politicians are not the answer, "competence" is not the answer.....all that is called trusting in the arm of flesh……but only the gospel and turning back to Jesus will turn back the judgments........otherwise good luck trying to fight back against the Lord God Almighty, who commands the ARMIES OF HEAVEN.  We should not fight back against Him at all.........but SURRENDER! and start preaching and living the gospel again.

[Neighbor]

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[simplejeff]

34 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

dont' we even read the bible?  Or maybe believing it is the problem.

Perhaps YHVH has again sent a famine,  not of food and water,  but a famine of the hearing of the Word of YHVH.

[Guest shiloh357]

1 hour ago, Heleadethme said:

i can hardly believe this whole conversation is from the mouths of those who name the name of Christ......dont' we even read the bible?  Or maybe believing it is the problem.

What we call competence was never even of our own but was a blessing from God.........western peoples are certainly no smarter than the heathen, just that for a while we had been more blessed.....through the gospel.  Wasn't long ago that our people were running around in animal skins wearing antlers on our head, painting mud on our faces, and sacrificing to the bog gods, LOL.  Oh my, how we need to be more humble, we better know it wasn't of our own.  And it is the Lord Himself who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms.

So we were blessed for a little while, but now our people are coming under a curse and God is blessing the strangers in our midst to rule over us.........the very exact same judgment that the Lord sent Israel when she fell away from following Him.....watch for this to increase if the nation doesn't repent.  It is more clearly seen in Canada where I live, but will increase elsewhere as well, if there is no repentance and turning back to God.  We can try to explain it away that the FBI is bogged down with bureaucracy and incompetence, or we can acknowledge the truth that this is happening because the Lord no longer goes out with our "armies" any more, again just like with Israel of old when she sinned.  Guns are not the answer, politicians are not the answer, "competence" is not the answer.....all that is called trusting in the arm of flesh……but only the gospel and turning back to Jesus will turn back the judgments........otherwise good luck trying to fight back against the Lord God Almighty, who commands the ARMIES OF HEAVEN.  We should not fight back against Him at all.........but SURRENDER! and start preaching and living the gospel again.

You just take care of the pagan, anti-God policies coming out of your government and Americans will deal with our problems.