5-Year Old Handcuffed!!!

[Trinity]

Oh no 

Im hurt!

LOL

[Guest Bro David™]

Bro david what would you do to correct the situation? When talking is clearly out of the picture and this 5 year old is a physical threat to all around her?

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When talking is out of the picture,

Well I would then try to remove her form the class and be very stern and direct with her.

If it continues I will then restrain her with force, like calling a few teachers [ so that I don't get sued alone ] and togather restraining her with our hands but not in a violent way.

If beyond that she tries to fight us off or anything I will just drag her by them ears into an empty room and lock her in there, call her parents and ask them over to evaluate and decide WITH the parents on what to do next.

I will also request that that child be brought home and do follow up phone calls asking how the situation is.

What ya think Island do ya think I have what it takes to be a pre-school teacher ?

LOL ever watch the Pacifier ? I am way bigger than Vin in terms of mass .

LOL

[Trinity]

scary! if i ever see you walking down my street you'll know its me if you see me screaming and running the other way

[Guest Bro David™]

Aww I am a big freindly guy.

I used to love bar room brawls though but not since the Grace of God touched me.

LOL

Don't run.

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When talking is out of the picture,

Well I would then try to remove her form the class and be very stern and direct with her.

Then she would bite and kick you and throw things at you. You could only put her out in the hall for you are not allowed to leave the rest of the kids in a classroom by themselves. If you put her out in the hall unwatched no telling what might happen

If it continues I will then restrain her with force, like calling a few teachers [ so that I don't get sued alone  ] and togather restraining her with our hands but not in a violent way.

None of the other teachers are allowed to leave their classes unattended either. While not te case here, many states do not allow a teacher to touch a child. You'd loose your job in most states for doing this.

If beyond that she tries to fight us off or anything I will just drag her by them ears into an empty room and lock her in there, call her parents and ask them over to evaluate and decide WITH the parents on what to do next.

There are no empty rooms in most schools, and in most of the cases parents don't answer the phone in the day time.

I will also request that that child be brought home and do follow up phone calls asking how the situation is.

This is valid and happens... but what to do with the kid until the parent gets there, and if the parent does not have a car (kid rides the bus) and can not come to the school.

What ya think Island do ya think I have what it takes to be a pre-school teacher ?

I'm not Island, but I think you have about the same ideas as most teachers have coming out of college...... then reality sets in your first day of class You'll wish the police were there before it's over

LOL ever watch the Pacifier ? I am way bigger than Vin in terms of mass .

That's good for you would need it.

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The point of alarm here should be that handcuffs are not designed to be used on children.  They are for restraining adults.  And whether you believe they could or should be used in any case, I think that it bears noting that in our society children of 5-years-old are not handcuffed and arrested.  And furthermore, we should not approve of the direction that we are going when we approve such things.

Granted, we kind of dug our own graves here.  But saints, there has to be a better, more reasonable way of dealing with these situations.  I'm sorry, but you simply cannot convince me that a 5-year-old could possibly overpower and adult - to such degree that the police have to be called in to deal with the situation. I mean, how far does this need to go?  Maybe the next time my 3-year-old pitches a fit on the kitchen floor I should call the police to come and take her away.  Is that really where we are going with this?

I agree there has to be a better way.

Unfortunately, the teachers are not allowed to do this. Could the teacher have grabbed the student's hands? Physically - yes. But by the rules of the school - no.

So, what does the teacher do - let the kid keep hitting her?

You see, I'm more angry at the school situation, that is the prevention of teachers from effectively disciplining the students when they need it, than I am of the cops intervening with handcuffs.

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On the news this morning, it was mentioned that the girl had said she had the tantrum because she didn't want to be in the school.

Oh brother!

[Guest Bro David™]

Whooooooaaa

Teachers are not allowed to subdue students in America ?

LOL

Here in Singapore ...ROTFLOL an outburst like that would result in three thrashings in a day.

One from the principal, one form the teacher and one when she gets back home from her daddy.

LOL

Oh dear then that would explain why the teacher called the police if she was not allowed to touch the student .

Ging Gang Golly ! How are teachers supposed to teach anything then ?

Can we start this thread all over again Cause in light of this new finding I think I might be a states attorney rather than a defense counsel

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[amazingrace]

The child apparently has serious anger issues. Was this a one-time event, or has she been a behavior problem before? Whatever it is, they should definately try to help her before it gets worse. (Help, in my opinion, should include parenting classes... not every grown person knows how to deal with children, and especially when the child is so frustrated that the only way she can express herself is through anger and violence). While the child needs to be held responsible for her bad behavior, a reasonable effort needs to be made to discover the reason(s) why she is acting out. Could be any number of things ... she might feel neglected (is there a new sibling now that is taking up mom's time?) ...are her parents going through a divorce or separation? ... has one of the parents begun dating/ or recently remarried? ... she might be experiencing abuse of some kind ... perhaps an older sibling is getting attention she thinks belongs to her... or she might be getting blamed for things she didnt do ... Perhaps a number of recent events have all come together and overwhelmed her ability to cope... Whatever it is, she needs to know that there are better and more acceptable ways to express herself, and that there are also consequences for behaving badly. I hope there are some understanding adults who can intervene on her behalf.