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Just now, iamlamad said:

Answer this question, and be honest, if that is at all possible with you:  DID God show John events that would shortly come to pass?

Or answer this question: DID God show John events that were future to John in 95 AD?

You crossed the line here iamlamad......please  rectify this! Please.....

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9 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

You still are avoiding the question.

You dance around and around.....but you still can't come up with an answer.

So, I'll ask you again:

You have plainly stated that the "ARROWS" are the Gospel. 

You need to explain where the rider on the WHITE HORSE gets the "Arrows" from, which you claim is the Gospel .

This is obviously your imagination running wild. There are no "ARROWS' with the rider of the white horse, only a bow.

Scripture plainly tells us that the rider on the white horse has a "bow" only.

You have added that he has arrows.

You have stated that the arrows are the gospel.

So......................You need to explain where the rider on the WHITE HORSE gets the "Arrows" from, which you claim is the Gospel .

Of course, you need to use scripture in your explanation.

I will answer your question with a question - which YOU have ignored: Where did Paul get His gospel? Answer mine and I will answer yours.

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No one has risen to the challenge: I previous wrote:

And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Here time passes on, and when time passes THINGS CHANGE.

And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Now, you can deny it is a search or call it a search: what we CALL it is not what is important: what is written is what is important.

Answer the question: you all don't like my answer so YOU ANSWER IT! WHY did John weep much? Since you guys seem to know it all, ANSWER: Why did John weep much?

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2 minutes ago, Spock said:

You crossed the line here iamlamad......please  rectify this! Please.....

He has proven time and time again that he just sidesteps my questions and asked me another.

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Just now, iamlamad said:

He has proven time and time again that he just sidesteps my questions and asked me another.

And be honest, if that is possible......

Not good, Bro! 

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Just now, Spock said:

And be honest, if that is possible......

Not good, Bro! 

I corrected it. Thanks.

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Just now, iamlamad said:

I corrected it. Thanks.

AWESOME DISPLAY OF HUMILITY!  Well done........?❤️???

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1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

I will answer your question with a question - which YOU have ignored: Where did Paul get His gospel? Answer mine and I will answer yours.

And again, you continue to avoid providing evidence of a statement you made.

I stepped in on page 23. It was then that I questioned what you stated and asked you for evidence. 

You keep skirting the issue by asking questions, not at all pertaining to what I asked you for.

"Why is John weeping? "......"Where did Paul get the gospel from?"

Then you want me to explain it for you!

"Since you think I am SO WRONG, give us YOUR theory: Explain the bow with no arrows".

It's your theory that is in question. It's up to YOU to explain it. Plain and simple!

That is what I have been asking for all along. 

I'm calling you out on your...........(----)

You need to explain where the rider on the WHITE HORSE gets the "Arrows" from, which you claim is the Gospel .

NO ARROWS.....NO GOSPEL..........NO THEORY!

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59 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

And again, you continue to avoid providing evidence of a statement you made.

I stepped in on page 23. It was then that I questioned what you stated and asked you for evidence. 

You keep skirting the issue by asking questions, not at all pertaining to what I asked you for.

"Why is John weeping? "......"Where did Paul get the gospel from?"

Then you want me to explain it for you!

"Since you think I am SO WRONG, give us YOUR theory: Explain the bow with no arrows".

It's your theory that is in question. It's up to YOU to explain it. Plain and simple!

That is what I have been asking for all along. 

I'm calling you out on your...........(----)

You need to explain where the rider on the WHITE HORSE gets the "Arrows" from, which you claim is the Gospel .

NO ARROWS.....NO GOSPEL..........NO THEORY!

Ok. You win this debate. I give up. No arrows. The first seal is the Antichrist  - in 32 AD! Sorry, it makes NO SENSE. It is taking it out of context.

You won't answer my question, I won't answer yours.  No, I am not like the rest of you all. I will answer.

Where did Paul get HIS gospel? Answer: directly from Jesus Christ the head of the Church through revelation knowledge. In other words, JESUS told Him.  It is such a sure thing, we are going to be judged by it.

Here is your answer:

Matthew 28:

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  [Go ye therefore is the first seal: the church sent out to overcome the enemy]

Short answer? They got their gospel from JESUS, the head of the church.  That was not so difficult, was it? 

What did the early church teach?

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:  (you can read the rest of his sermon yourself)

Do you know what the "expert" said about the "bow?"

tóxon, tox'-on; from the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric):—bow. This is Strong's: he thinks the bow is a bow like we tie a bow around our neck, or perhaps on the back of a dress. Simple fabric from "toxon?"
Well, perhaps you like his answer better then mine!

I still think all you want to do is argue.  I hope you can prove me wrong on that. Are you asking questions to learn?

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19 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Answer this question, and be honest,(will you be honest and really answer the question?):  DID God show John events that would shortly come to pass?

Or answer this question: DID God show John events that were future to John in 95 AD?

Yes to both.

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