The Dangerous Lie of Preterism

[Still Alive]

10 minutes ago, Willie T said:

I've personally met only two in my entire 73 years of life, that I know of, anyway.

I confess that I'm a "partial" Preterist. But I don't label it. I just think the fall of Jerusalem was part of what it is talking about. It also hit me, about 20 years ago, that somewhere around the year 2018 might factor into all the end times stuff. I base it on this: it says that this generation will not pass away until all these things come to pass. And the length of the life of a generation as described in the bible, post flood, is roughly 70 years. And Israel became a nation in 1948.

What's interesting is just how much events really do seem to be coming to a swift close, forgetting about the semi-date-setting I did back then. I do believe that if the R's keep control of congress in this next election cycle, it could get pretty ugly in the US, but that's not the whole world.

But it's just speculation on my part.

Oh, and you're 9 years older than me, ya old fossil!

Edited July 30, 2018 by Still Alive

[Willie T]

2 hours ago, Still Alive said:

So, what, exactly is being argued about being written either in 69 or 96?

I understand the general understanding, but this discussion seems to be about a specific book or document.

Specifically, if the book of Revelation was written prior to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple, it makes it very difficult to refocus all that the book talks about as being meant to happen thousands of years off into the future.

The book The Days of Vengeance is probably the most comprehensive commentary of Revelation ever written in all of history, and the other book that really presents both sides of the "date of writing" issue is Before Jerusalem Fell.  Both are great books that no Christian should fail to read.

Edited July 30, 2018 by Willie T

[Still Alive]

1 minute ago, Willie T said:

Specifically, if the book of Revelation was written prior to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple, it makes it very difficult to refocus all that the book talks about as being meant to happen thousands of years off into the future.

The book Days of Vengeance is probably the most comprehensive commentary of Revelation ever written in all of history, and the other book that really presents both sides of the "date of writing" issue is Before Jerusalem Fell.  Both are great books that no Christian should fail to read.

Thanks for that recommendation. I'll look for them on Amazon.

[Willie T]

1 minute ago, Still Alive said:

Thanks for that recommendation. I'll look for them on Amazon.

They can both be downloaded, for free, online.  But, a warning:  They are both large books, and cannot be covered in just a few days.

[Still Alive]

Just now, Willie T said:

They can both be downloaded, for free, online.  But, a warning:  They are both large books, and cannot be covered in just a few days.

Can you get them as audio? something to fill my three hour commute.

[Still Alive]

Chilton?

If so, I can get 8 one hour sermons called "days of vengeance" on youtube.

[Willie T]

1 minute ago, Still Alive said:

Can you get them as audio? something to fill my three hour commute.

I don't know.  I have never looked for that since I often like to re-read some paragraphs or chapters several times in a row.

[Willie T]

1 minute ago, Still Alive said:

Chilton?

If so, I can get 8 one hour sermons called "days of vengeance" on youtube.

If it helps, the book was written by David Chilton.

[Still Alive]

5 minutes ago, Willie T said:

If it helps, the book was written by David Chilton.

I'll hit those on my way home from work today. Thanks muchly!

[Willie T]

I didn't know about [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd8pLOYmnzE ]THIS[/URL], but I am finding it interesting, right from the very first statement about the book.  Thank you very much for telling me about it.

 

Edited July 30, 2018 by Willie T