new caravan of illegals from el salvador

[ayin jade]

One of two new caravans headed to the us, along with the hondurans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/another-u-s-bound-caravan-takes-shape-one-el-salvador-n923346

Stop the invasions.

[Guest 1sheep]

Pence spoke with someone in venezuela that said it was all planned by the left. This is outright assault on our country! I hope Trump does as he said and has 1000's of officials waiting to turn them back. Im so sick of the left using illegals as weapons

[Guest 1sheep]

19 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I hope so too but even still it will be used as propaganda against Trump..."see how racist Trump is?" etc.

Well now they are questioning him saying he is a nationalist comparing him to Hitler again! Lol

Racist Hiltler ? We shall soon see

[other one]

If they are allowed to use them there are several non leathal weapons they can use to turn them back

[Guest]

The US is legally obliged to consider the cases of asylum seekers.

Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua have Temporary Protected Status status, so they can ask for asylum at a border crossing and they will be allowed into the country. 

The Secretary of Homeland Security may designate a foreign country for TPS due to conditions in the country that temporarily prevent the country's nationals from returning safely, or in certain circumstances, where the country is unable to handle the return of its nationals adequately.  USCIS may grant TPS to eligible nationals of certain countries (or parts of countries), who are already in the United States.  Eligible individuals without nationality who last resided in the designated country may also be granted TPS.

The Secretary may designate a country for TPS due to the following temporary conditions in the country:

Ongoing armed conflict (such as civil war)

An environmental disaster (such as earthquake or hurricane), or an epidemic

Other extraordinary and temporary conditions

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/temporary-protected-status

 

Both US and International Law require that we let all asylum seekers into the country and give them a fair hearing to see if they qualify for temporary or permanent immigration status.  

The 1951 Refugee Convention and 1967 Protocol
http://www.unhcr.org/uk/1951-refugee-convention.html

Public Law 96-212
96th Congress
Immigration and Nationality Act 
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-94/pdf/STATUTE-94-Pg102.pdf

What does the Bible say?

Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed. (Proverbs 19:17) 

Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. (Psalm 82:3)

Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him. (Proverbs 14:31)

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me (Matthew 25:35)

 

 Don't believe their plight is real?

'Men can do anything they want to women in Honduras': Inside one of the most dangerous places on Earth to be a woman
https://abcnews.go.com/International/men-women-honduras-inside-dangerous-places-earth-woman/story?id=47135328

Welcome to Honduras, the most dangerous country on the planet
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/honduras/10454018/Welcome-to-Honduras-the-most-dangerous-country-on-the-planet.html

 

 

Edited October 24, 2018 by Guest

[Guest 1sheep]

2 hours ago, Davida said:

As I watched, I see that NBC news is just as dense with the anti-Trump rhetoric so they can join the my No watch list with Cnn & Msnbc.  Pres Trump is a Nationalist & patriot trying to plug up the holes in the dam before the levy breaks.  Btw, I agree Jade, it is as you say an invasion or replacement population.  It's what the UN wants- no borders, a central power & global socialism. Good luck to the natural born for generations citizens - say goodbye to your countries, or wake up and defend against the tide of socialism that wears a disguise because we've been sold out by the politicians & globalist elites that are making decisions for us & they have many useful idiots at the grassroots who give them the manpower to shut down public discourse & free speech. The incoming migrants are going to vote for aid- socialism.  

I hope they are turned back. They are invaders testing our solidarity and many are criminals.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, Yowm said:

.You can't mix the responsibility of the individual (Christian) with those responsibilities of the government. 

This is true, but look at the responses Christians are giving not only in this thread, but also on social media. In this thread for example, not one person has suggested we pray for these people or have shown any concern for their safety and well being.

30 minutes ago, Yowm said:

It would be more believeable if they weren't carrying their country's flag.

Here in the Philippines they are in the middle of a drug war. Depending on who's reporting the numbers there have been between 12,000 and 20,000 killed in the past two years, many at the hands of the government including innocent women and children. If there wasn't thousands of miles of ocean between here and the US, you would see a lot of Filipino refugees showing up at the border. While they would be fleeing their country, it doesn't mean they don't love it. Patriotism is strong in this country just like anywhere else, and waving their country's flag doesn't mean their not fleeing persecution and danger. 

Another thing to consider is that most of this caravan will probably dissipate before it ever reaches the border. The one earlier in the year started out with 1,500 people and had dwindled to just 200 or 300 by the time it reached the US border. This one is much larger, but 1,500 people out of this group have already asked for asylum in Mexico and that number will increase as the days and weeks go by just as it did with the last caravan. A few hundred, or even a few thousand desperate people arriving at the US border is not a security crisis. We can easily screen, process, and absorb those people into our country if it's determined their claims are based on a genuine fear of returning to their country. 

We should pray for these people rather than fear them. For those who make it to the border, we should pray that our government will treat them fairly and accept them if they are in need of refuge. 

 

Edited October 24, 2018 by Guest

[other one]

33 minutes ago, Davida said:

Not just used against Trump but against any of the population in the western world that are saying stop this influx , they get called racist or alt-right.  Many Germans are saying their streets are dangerous now , & the women do not have the freedom they once had , nor in France etc.  In the UK there have been grooming gangs arrested for raping young girls and using them for sex trade. Gangs of migrants rioting and throwing rocks in the streets.  I don't recall new immigrants doing these things in the past. There is not the desire to integrate into the host culture and become a westerner.   

I'm not sure we will see this for some time.

[other one]

53 minutes ago, Davida said:

My pt is this is not just an American problem, this is happening all across the west. Europe is ahead of us. 

Europe is also pretty much unarmed...   not the same here.

 

[Guest shiloh357]

13 hours ago, Badjao33 said:

 

 Don't believe their plight is real?

'Men can do anything they want to women in Honduras': Inside one of the most dangerous places on Earth to be a woman
https://abcnews.go.com/International/men-women-honduras-inside-dangerous-places-earth-woman/story?id=47135328

Welcome to Honduras, the most dangerous country on the planet
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/honduras/10454018/Welcome-to-Honduras-the-most-dangerous-country-on-the-planet.html

 

 

I don't think these people are coming to escape that.   They carrying their own nation's flag, burning the US flag, calling Trump the Antichrist and putting their middle finger up as they burn our flag.   

Those are not asylum seekers.   They are the kind of people we need to keep out of our country.