OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

[Heb 13:8]

15 minutes ago, Butero said:

No I don't.  I haven't committed any willful sins today, and I can't think of any all week.  It has been a while, and there is no time when it wasn't 100 percent on me when I did.  There is no reason anyone has to commit willful sins.  It is a choice.  

Well, eternal security is not about how many sins you don't commit, it's about belief in the finished work of the cross

[Heb 13:8]

15 minutes ago, Butero said:

That doesn't answer the question.  The Bible states that if you speak a word against the Holy Spirit, there is no forgiveness for you in this life or in the next.  It doesn't just say blaspheme.  There is no way you can get the sin of unbelief from that.  

and i don't know of any believer that would do that. we will love Jesus until death because we know what He did for us on the cross.

[Heb 13:8]

15 minutes ago, Butero said:

Where is your fear and trembling?  

Oh it's there. I fear God out of love for Him, not in fear of hell.

[Heb 13:8]

16 minutes ago, Butero said:

In this instance, they were people that were once saved, but later fell away.  

No, 2 Thess 2:3 is about nonbelievers. Partial rapture is false.

[Heb 13:8]

16 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

 

The Legalists here, or Judaizer If you prefer, has not experienced their night of fear and trembling.I think that is why their interpretation of God’s Word is skewed.

only then does it "click", we plant the seed, God draws them in

[Heb 13:8]

20 minutes ago, Butero said:

You have been doing a lot of accusing.  You have been doing a lot of boasting too, claiming to be of the elect, when only God knows who they are.  

The elect are those who are born again, those who believe that it is finished at the cross

[Blood Bought 1953]

4 hours ago, Butero said:

You are forgiven of sins when you confess them.  See 1 John.

 

You were forgiven of your sins the instant you became a Believer.....” ......forgiving one another as Christ HAS 

Forgiven you...”

We confess our sins to restore fellowship with the One , who for Christ’s sake, forgave us 

Collosians says we are forgiven ALL of our sins.....the Greek word we translate as “all” means everything one could possibly think of 

 

[Heb 13:8]

19 minutes ago, Butero said:

What exactly do you think these people are teaching when they say you can never lose salvation, no matter how much you sin?   What is there to show?  It is the doctrine they are believing and teaching!  Let's turn this around, and I will ask you a question.  How can anyone who believes in OSAS be saying that you cannot sin all you want and remain saved, when the doctrine is about how your salvation is unconditional?  I can't even believe this is a serious question!  

What is there to show? The Glory of Jesus Christ, in that He keeps his promises even to filthy sinners like us. Heaven will be filled with sinners who believed, who loved Jesus, who were born again .  Jesus died for the sinner not the pharisee

[Heb 13:8]

20 minutes ago, Butero said:

There is nothing logical about your question!  The Bible doesn't teach OSAS, so naturally you won't find scripture to say you can sin all you want and remain saved.  That is because OSAS is a lie.  People that teach OSAS are arguing that no amount of sin a Christian commits can cause them to lose salvation, so duh, that means they can sin all they want and remain saved!  That is why I am asking if this is a serious question.  

No we actually do not teach that. That's a lie from the devil. OSAS teaches sanctification, discipline, godly sorrow through the power of the cross. His power keeps us saved, and not our filthy works

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21 minutes ago, Butero said:

There is your proof JustPassingThru, from a genuine believer in OSAS.  Look at what he just said.  He said, "Everyday I sin as much as I want to."  He believes that if he wants to, he can sin all he wants to and remain saved, even if he doesn't confess those sins.  

BB is no better than filthy Butero who has been deceived into thinking he is any better.