OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

[Heb 13:8]

29 minutes ago, Butero said:

What about those who are?  Did you read the list?  Know any Christians that do those things?  

The word "are" isn't there. Nonbelievers obtain those things, because that's who they are

[Guest 1sheep]

1 minute ago, Butero said:

That is no fear.

Oh really? 

You will say anything to prop up your works salvation.

Proverbs 9:10 

¹⁰ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

God puts that healthy dose of fear and also reverence in his reborn saints. 

We OSAS folk dont advocate sinning wilfully. We also dont advocate the yoke that isnt there. It is so sad that your thinking is the " be good religious thinking" the bible belt breeds.

Ive met many like you. 

Faith plus nothing . That is the gospel. Those that are saved could never be lost. Period

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

No I don't.  I haven't committed any willful sins today, and I can't think of any all week.  It has been a while, and there is no time when it wasn't 100 percent on me when I did.  There is no reason anyone has to commit willful sins.  It is a choice.  

 

Is pride a willfull sin? Or self-righteousness? Or self- deception? Or having the entire Bible rotating on a misunderstanding of one verse in Hebrews about willful sin? Those Hebrews rejected they one time , all sufficient Sacrifice provide by the Savior of the world.Sound familiar? Would you believe that in this day and age, one can still see this going on?Nothing But The Blood......rejected then....rejected today . 

[Heb 13:8]

27 minutes ago, Butero said:

"And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.  For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.  Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."  Luke 21:34-36

According to OSAS, all Christians are automatically worthy to go in the rapture.  According to OSAS, behavior will make no difference to whether they go or not.  Not according to Jesus!  OSAS is a lie!  

Luke 21:36 is referring to the Jews (earthly Israel) in the latter half of the 70th week, lol

[Heb 13:8]

30 minutes ago, Butero said:

How come the Holy Spirit dwells in a filthy sinner?  

Because of love, that the Pharisee can't fathom

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

There is your proof JustPassingThru, from a genuine believer in OSAS.  Look at what he just said.  He said, "Everyday I sin as much as I want to."  He believes that if he wants to, he can sin all he wants to and remain saved, even if he doesn't confess those sins.  

 

Good grief......

now I know what Jesus meant when He said....” you see yet you don’t see”

[Guest 1sheep]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

No I don't.  I haven't committed any willful sins today, and I can't think of any all week.  It has been a while, and there is no time when it wasn't 100 percent on me when I did.  There is no reason anyone has to commit willful sins.  It is a choice.  

But if it happens,  they are forgiven. God chastens those who are his. Why would the Lord crack the whip if we were going to fall away anyway? Your reasoning is flawed. 

One could argue you are sinning right now by refusing to listen to reason. Ha!

[Heb 13:8]

29 minutes ago, Butero said:

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well:  the devils also believe, and tremble.  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"  James 2:19,20

What is the difference between Abraham believing and the demons believing? I'm gonna grab dinner, be back later.

[Guest 1sheep]

6 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Luke 21:36 is referring to the Jews (earthly Israel) in the latter half of the 70th week, lol

Yep. You are correct. 

[Guest 1sheep]

34 minutes ago, Butero said:

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well:  the devils also believe, and tremble.  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"  James 2:19,20

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,