Two Nations

[n2thelight]

Genesis 25:23 "And the Lord said unto her, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."

 

My question,where are they today?

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Easu is the originator of the Edomites..

Jacob was the originator of the 12 tribes of Israel..

So the Jews are decendants of Jacob..

Note the prophecy never said that both nations would last forever..

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

Genesis 25:23 "And the Lord said unto her, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."

My question,where are they today?

Esau's line did indeed became the Edomites who were the inhabitants of Idumea.  

Wkpd has this to say:

Antipater the Idumaean, the progenitor of the Herodian Dynasty along with Judean progenitors, that ruled Judea after the Roman conquest, was of mixed Edomite/Judean origin. Under Herod the Great, the Idumaea province was ruled for him by a series of governors, among whom were his brother Joseph ben Antipater, and his brother-in-law Costobarus.

According to Josephus, during the siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE by Titus, 20,000 Idumaeans, under the leadership of John, Simeon, Phinehas, and Jacob, helped the Zealots fight for independence from Rome, who were besieged in the Temple.^[53] After the Jewish Wars, the Idumaean people are no longer mentioned in history, though the geographical region of "Idumea" is still referred to at the time of Jerome.^[30]

[n2thelight]

Can anyone see Russia as that nation of Esau? 

[WilliamL]

On 1/21/2019 at 10:20 PM, n2thelight said:

My question,where are they today?

Edomites are in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, nationally; but ethnically, they are all over.

Just as the descendants of Jacob are all over, but primarily in Israel and America.

On 1/23/2019 at 7:50 AM, n2thelight said:

Can anyone see Russia as that nation of Esau? 

No. Russians are from the lineage of Japheth, not Shem. Not that there aren't Edomites/sons of Esau in Russia also.

[n2thelight]

On 1/24/2019 at 4:51 PM, WilliamL said:

Edomites are in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, nationally; but ethnically, they are all over.

Just as the descendants of Jacob are all over, but primarily in Israel and America.

No. Russians are from the lineage of Japheth, not Shem. Not that there aren't Edomites/sons of Esau in Russia also.

Check out the below and let me know what you think.

As I do see Russia as Esau

Edited February 1, 2019 by George
Removed link for connection to Shepherds chapel.

[WilliamL]

On 1/25/2019 at 5:17 AM, n2thelight said:

Check out the below and let me know what you think.

Not much. Lots of claims without any solid biblical or historical evidence that shows Russians are descended from Esau.

Russians are Slavs, Edomites are Shemites. Not even the same race.

[n2thelight]

13 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Not much. Lots of claims without any solid biblical or historical evidence that shows Russians are descended from Esau.

Russians are Slavs, Edomites are Shemites. Not even the same race.

Thanks

[ayin jade]

On 1/25/2019 at 3:17 AM, n2thelight said:

Check out the below and let me know what you think

 

As I do see Russia as Esau

Your link (which I edited out of this post) is to a site that promotes the studies of shepherds chapel, a very bad group with unsound doctrine. 

[n2thelight]

1 hour ago, ayin jade said:

Your link (which I edited out of this post) is to a site that promotes the studies of shepherds chapel, a very bad group with unsound doctrine. 

All good,thanks for the response