Popular Post jerryfhanson Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2019 Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 28, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? Why would you think people have Christian Values ? Should God have let, or caused, what is much worse for us to happen ?  (It will happen soon enough, when God Says) Remember what Scripture Says Clearly : Daniel 2:21 He changes the times and seasons; He removes kings ...  https://biblehub.com/daniel/2-21.htm He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others. ... King James Bible ... You control human events--you give rulers their power and take it away, and you .... but it is God who judges; He brings one down and exalts another. .. Edited February 28, 2019 by simplejeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph0416 Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/01/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 Because socialism is more scary than trump. Socialists have outlawed or marginalized Christianity throughou the world. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 I voted for President Trump because God told me to..... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 18 hours ago, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? I would suggest that when you have only two options and you don't really like either.. You then decide to select the option that is the less offensive to you.. So when i came to Trump and Clinton these voters selected Trump because Clinton was far more offensive to them.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 1, 2019 If I had not voted for Trump, Hillary Clinton would have become president. I voted for Trump to block her. I didn't vote for him easily and I can't STAND it when fellow brothers and sister act like he was sent from God to "save the nation". However, America is not a theocracy. America really isn't even a Christian nation. [I do know that some people equate Christianity with American nationalism but that's idolatry in my opinion.] I do not apologize for voting for him, I do not consider what I did evil, and I will vote for him again unless the Lord directs me otherwise. God is ultimately in charge anyway. If our country is going to hell in a handbasket like some believe, one singular president cannot burden 100% of the responsibility.   1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Jayne said: If I had not voted for Trump, Hillary Clinton would have become president. Who told you Yahweh did not choose and put in place the one who Yahweh wanted to be in office ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jayne said: If our country is going to hell in a handbasket like some believe, one singular president cannot burden 100% of the responsibility. Most of the system, if not all of it, and most of the past politicians, and future ones,  are all part of the same system opposed to faith in Jesus.  Yahweh set the boundaries,  men did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2019 19 hours ago, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? Apparently they felt like they had to vote no matter what. They did not like Hilary. Many did not vote. God opened up the doors for Trump. No necessarily for the benefit of America. I am sure you have been reading the news. We may get answers to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted March 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Online Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: Who told you Yahweh did not choose and put in place the one who Yahweh wanted to be in office ? How did he put Trump in office [and I believe he did]? He moved people to cast a ballot for him. God is sovereign. He puts people where he wants them to be for whatever the reason is. Perhaps you've read something in to what I said? Let me tell you a story that I don't readily tell. I, along with millions, was watching the election returns on the night that George W. Bush won his second term in November of 2004. As you know, on those nights the media also cuts away to senate elections and more all over the nation. That night, the channel I was watching, kept cutting away to the senatorial elections in Illinois. They kept showing this tall, black man with a funny name who had won an Illinois senate seat and was from Chicago. They cut away to him FAR more than any other senate race winner/loser. I kept wondering what was going on with that. And the commentators kept on complimenting him and talking about how smart he was. I almost felt like it was that man's night and not President Bush's night. I had never even heard of the guy:  Barak Hussein Obama. God said to my in my spirit, "This is your next president." I said to myself, "Oh, wow." God did not say this to me to make me glad/excited or to make me depressed/mad. God was reiterating to me that he is completely sovereign over it all - including who becomes president of the United States. So God did choose whom he wanted with Trump. But he works in presidential elections on election day by moving people to vote. I was moved to vote to Trump even though I am not his biggest fan at all. I believe that God put Obama in office. As judgment on Americans for decades of abortion, homosexual promotion, and sexual depravity in general. Why has God put Trump in office? I don't know....but I don't believe it's for "saving America". I voted for him. I truly believe that a vote for anyone else was a vote for Hillary.   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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