Neighbor Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 956 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,616 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,070 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Michael37 said: Good pun, Heybro. The marriages of Christians to unbelievers tend to be a source of trouble, but shock, horror, how many marriages where both are Christians end in divorce? Too many. Yes way too many, and it is as sad an experience as it is with all that marry and then part. BUT it is a common experience to have two unbelievers marry, and then one become a believer in the faith of Jesus His Gospel, just as it was at the very beginning of the church. It is that which is addressed regarding the faith of one blessing the other and the children of that union. That blessing being reason the believer is not to leave the unbeliever except for when the unbeliever will not accept the believer, and also I would guess in cases of infidelity. I have know personally a few believers that have had their spouses reject them as they turned to Christ. Two of them that I have known became leaders within churches, mentors to me in my walk, and missionaries to those of errant faithing practices of the groups they had been part of prior to the reveal of Christ to them by the Holy Spirit. Their persistent strength in the face of severe turmoil from spouse and offspring, plus their old community of faith in something other than Jesus'gospel pulled at them and even threatened them- but it was and is all used by God to the good of those that do believe on Jesus. It was and is a testimony that helps me cling fast to my own dependency on Christ Jesus, as I walk a much easier path then they have. Their suffering being my gain in security and also to some degree knowledge as they were terrific teachers, one educated in Hebrew and Judaism , the other from a Greek Orthodox background understanding Greek including old Greek language. I absolutely treasure the life experience of having known them, and for their being so kind to me for years, even as they suffered greatly themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 956 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,616 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,070 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 Marriages are arranged today even, in some Christian Church settings, but also in other faithing systems as well. The Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ comes to mind. Dating even without a belief system may not be as common as secular television and those silly reality presentations portray. Many of us never dated around. We just up and found a mate and that was that. My wife to be, as I have shared before, walked past my family's home, wearing her girl scout uniform. And I soon married her till death did us part some 50 years after I first saw her. I " met " my present bride without dating. We talked online, met and married, that was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,162 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,884 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 12 hours ago, missmuffet said: You do not think that friends, dating or spouses as being unevenly yoked? Do you not believe that a born again Christian should not be unevenly yolked with an unbeliever? neither in marriage or close friends that you spend a lot of time around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.79 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 hours ago, other one said: did you read what I wrote... I don't think it just includes spouses, but also anyone you hang out with.... including dates.. It was not clear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 9:50 AM, Neighbor said: Where is it recorded that Paul said; don't date unbelievers? Did Paul discuss "dating" at all? Are there Bible passages in the old testament or the new regarding "dating" procedures? When one dates, one should think it through. Do you want to marry an unbeliever? Isn't it going to cause major problems if you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinison Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/05/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1977 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I wonder what Hosea went through in his day, being yoked to a prostitute. I get that there was a bigger picture there, but still.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 956 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,616 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,070 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Kinison said: I wonder what Hosea went through in his day, being yoked to a prostitute. I get that there was a bigger picture there, but still.. One is FIRST obedient to God. 5 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: When one dates, one should think it through. Do you want to marry an unbeliever? Isn't it going to cause major problems if you do? "Should one date?" is the first question. If the answer is no the second question that of who to date is moot. To say "in our culture, we date" is not to say it is God's will that anyone date. Instead it says, we are doing things our way, and only then asks in light of that how will we make our will look more like it is God's? To say "we date so date only Christians is the rule" kinda comes out of left field, even in a game of make your own rules for Godliness, if there is no Biblical basis for it. If one's culture is outside the will of God to start with does one change the culture, ignore the culture, or modify God's will to fit the culture's habits and traits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Neighbor said: One is FIRST obedient to God. "Should one date?" is the first question. If the answer is no the second question that of who to date is moot. To say "in our culture, we date" is not to say it is God's will that anyone date. Instead it says, we are doing things our way, and only then asks in light of that how will we make our will look more like it is God's? To say "we date so date only Christians is the rule" kinda comes out of left field, even in a game of make your own rules for Godliness, if there is no Biblical basis for it. If one's culture is outside the will of God to start with does one change the culture, ignore the culture, or modify God's will to fit the culture's habits and traits? Should people date? I don't know. Men and women do marry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,162 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,884 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Kinison said: I wonder what Hosea went through in his day, being yoked to a prostitute. I get that there was a bigger picture there, but still.. was the prostitute an unbeliever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted April 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,259 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,866 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2019 I personally believe it is perfectly fine to date, and necessary, for marriage. For a Christian it should be another Christian according to scripture that can easily be found. I would say a very large percentage, if not all Christians here on Worthy dated their spouse. How else do you get to know somebody? (Yes Neighbor, there is the internet.. ) So, what is a date, specifically. When you are with someone in particular, going somewhere, doing something. My children (believers) met their spouses at church functions and activities. They then went to other activities. Not to the singles bar, or dance hall. At first together with friends, then just together. A date can be blessed of God, or maneuvered by the devil. It's what you make it. It does take time to know someone. This is a huge decision, made before God, for a lifetime. If someone really likes another, who is lost, and is considering marriage, lead them to Christ. If Christ is refused, then refuse the idea of marriage with them. Before it's too late. God will provide that which is needful for marriage. Wait upon the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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