Gomorah demons are here and about

[simplejeff]

Somewhere, maybe several places, in Scripture, it is written and remains unchanged

that those who are supporting and defending sin,  actively or even just quietly without saying anything,

will be punished with the same punishment as those committing the transgressions - just

as if they did them themselves.   Yes,  even if they did nothing at all except quietly stand by approving of the abominations,    they are already guilty of the abominations themselves, and face certain judgment to come.

[warrior12]

2 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

In my lifetime, I never thought I'd see the day when fundamental Christianity would become 'hate speech' and non-inclusive. It has become very apparent Christianity is only one small step away from persecution and being legislated against by the state. Yes, we do not battle against flesh and blood, but principalities and powers in dark places. 

Just twenty years ago, the landscape of morality was quite different.  Respect for the preachers of the word and fear of God were virtues that was held by the English speaking countries .  Now they have discarded those values for the most part and cursing and swearing and abuse of the preachers that warn of sin is the norm.  It is like some powers of ungodliness has been unleashed at a rapid rate, with changing the laws and the increase of human behavior to somewhat hedonistic values.   

As you said, the behavior of the American population does not reflect the statistics of a christian majority nation. I think there is a time coming when the famine of the word would be allowed and the moral degradation of society would reach to levels unseen before.  Or, maybe, I am just being an alarmist that is over-hyped about nothing.  The Canadian population is for the most part the same and is leading the way in promoting 

What I can testify to though and know for an absolute, the spiritual powers of darkness are influencing all levels of society, from commerce to religion and is bringing forth it's agenda to control keep man under its control.   I have written in this forum before about seducing spirits and how they can overwhelm and entice.  I always refer to this as in Rev. 17:2 , as Mystery Babylon with her goldern cup that makes the WHOLE world drink from it.   It is real and as I said a testimony that I would have to give an account as if I spoke the truth or not.  

Revelation 17 King James Version (KJV)

² With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

[Debp]

4 hours ago, Willa said:

Washington voters also voted twice to turn it down, but it was pushed through the liberal congress and signed into law in spite of that.  The first time it was voted down the California promoters stated that it would take more "conditioning", as though they were training dogs.  

Methodist and Episcopal are the main liberal denominations that marry gays.  They now have gay "churches" that mainly preach gay rights.  

The gay churches are known as "More Light" churches....as if we that believe the Bible are in the dark.   A good Presbyterian Church I attended for some 25 years or more was eventually changed to a More Light church.   How did that happen?   When a new pastor was needed, since we have many Hispanics, they found a pastor who was a missionary to Mexico.    He was married (first wife had died) and had kids.    Slowly he started to embrace the gay agenda and lead the congregation astray.  

Long story short, he eventually came out as gay, divorced his wife and married a man.   I had already left that church long before, but he wrote everyone a letter about coming out!   After a stint in public education, he is now an Episcopal priest.

[Guest PinkBelt]

15 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Just twenty years ago, the landscape of morality was quite different.  Respect for the preachers of the word and fear of God were virtues that was held by the English speaking countries .

I'm 41 years of age and people were no more or less reverential 20 years ago.

[warrior12]

1 hour ago, PinkBelt said:

I'm 41 years of age and people were no more or less reverential 20 years ago.

Right then. So I will push is back down another 20 to 40.   People were more respectful of the men preaching the gospel and would at least walk on by. Today this is not so.  Don't know what society you live in, but in the cities, people don't want to hear the name God and they let the preaches know with all the insults ect.

[simplejeff]

9 hours ago, PinkBelt said:

I'm 41 years of age and people were no more or less reverential 20 years ago.

From the activities between 1902 and 1950,   people in general were not reverential nor turning to God for help, except for a few.

The wars,  industry,  corporations, drug manufacturers, bankers,  oil industry,  education,  television all neglected doing what is right,  and TAUGHT CHILDREN as well as adults TO DO what is sinful and wrong and harmful.   As written in Galatians, all society is death-dealing,   is still true today,  until Jesus returns.

[Debp]

13 hours ago, PinkBelt said:

I'm 41 years of age and people were no more or less reverential 20 years ago.

 

12 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Right then. So I will push is back down another 20 to 40.   People were more respectful of the men preaching the gospel and would at least walk on by. Today this is not so.  Don't know what society you live in, but in the cities, people don't want to hear the name God and they let the preaches know with all the insults ect.

I am a senior citizen so can remember very well when pastors and even churches were very respected!   In those years one could go into any church with the sense of the pastor being a holy man of God, that could counsel and offer help.

Recently here, some churches have been vandalized and a couple even were set on fire.   The lack of respect for God is becoming more and more apparent, sad to say.

[Guest PinkBelt]

4 hours ago, Debp said:

 

I am a senior citizen so can remember very well when pastors and even churches were very respected!   In those years one could go into any church with the sense of the pastor being a holy man of God, that could counsel and offer help.

Recently here, some churches have been vandalized and a couple even were set on fire.   The lack of respect for God is becoming more and more apparent, sad to say.

Everyone thinks things were different "back in the day". They weren't. Nostalgia and rose tinted glasses are a poor way to assess the past.

 

[Debp]

3 hours ago, PinkBelt said:

Everyone thinks things were different "back in the day". They weren't. Nostalgia and rose tinted glasses are a poor way to assess the past.

 

I'm alot older than you so I am speaking from experience from the 1950s onward, that there was a difference, compared to more current times.  Most people believed in God then and church on Sundays was the norm.   In public school, we began class with prayer.   People were respectful of the clergy and others.   One hardly heard of divorce or murder.   I remember hearing of one divorce back then and it was shocking to us.   Families with two parents were the norm.   There definitely is a change in society for the worse since the free sex movement began in the late 1960s.

[Debp]

1 hour ago, Cletus said:

it was in the 80's profanity on tv began.  shortlyafter on the radio.   at first it was just one or two words for a whole 30minute show.  now turn on the tv, its every sentence.  in the 90's high school kids would stop listening to a musical artist, and stop buying their albums if it was made public they were homosexual.  now it seems to be if someone is gay it is something that qualifies them as being "cool"

i really started noticing in the 80's how morality was on a rapid decline.  today its wicked beyond what anyone thought it could ever be like 40-50 years ago.  what it says in the bible is coming to pass concerning the end times.  morality is on the decline.  

the spirit of antichrist has been very busy for awhile now. 

And if you would have told us back then that homosexuals would be marrying, and that people would be taking hormones and having surgeries to change their sex, we would never have believed that could happen!