Jayne Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 For everyone in agreement with canceling the funeral, is it because a gay man is attending or a gay man was asked to sing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 The gay son was singing and it is presumed that his fiance would be attending. I assume the son would also be giving a few words. In all of this, it would appear to be condoning homosexuality if the funeral was held in that church. The father was not a current member or attendee of that church, so the church isnt really obligated to host it to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) If we welcome gay to church we can use God's word to make them repent, which they cannot find at other places. Pastor can use the gay's presence to rebuke him with the sermon. Edited July 25, 2019 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jayne said: For everyone in agreement with canceling the funeral, is it because a gay man is attending or a gay man was asked to sing? I think the church can’t allow open and obvious sin. We all understand everyone sins. But open and obvious can’t be allowed. We cannot be proud of our rebellion against Christ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 6 hours ago, ayin jade said: I saw this in the news today and Im curious what you all think. A man, I will call him fred, is dying and wishes to have 1) his funeral at the church he first attended and 2) have his son sing at the funeral. The son, jesse, made arrangements with the church for the funeral. The church later found out that the son will have his fiance with him. The fiance is another man. The church, a baptist church, canceled the funeral. There is some dispute about whether or not they outright canceled it or asked that the fiance not attend. Regardless, there is a huge backlash against the church and I suspect this could end up going to court. Which would mean that churches may lose the right to have any say in what goes on at their churches. Was the church correct in what they did? Personally I think the church was correct to cancel the funeral. Did the Father know that the son is homosexual and that his same sex fiancee would be singing with his son at the funeral? The father should have put that in writing. Yes, it could go to court. The homosexual community is very powerful now in this world. We all know what happened with the bakeries. The acceptance for homosexuality has not always been this out in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Kristin said: Jayne I agree it seems harsh. However; the father was a CHRISTIAN and now dead. Churches must follow the Word of God. They must. This son may come to the Lord because this is a hard thing. We can’t baby and coddle people into damnation. There comes a point to love them enough to show them the truth. IMO How do you know the father was a Christian? Just because he attended a Church did not make him a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kristin said: I think the church can’t allow open and obvious sin. We all understand everyone sins. But open and obvious can’t be allowed. We cannot be proud of our rebellion against Christ But you didn't answer my question. Are you saying the funeral should be cancelled because a gay man is in attendance and relative of the deceased or because a gay man was asked to sing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kristin said: I think the church can’t allow open and obvious sin. We all understand everyone sins. But open and obvious can’t be allowed. We cannot be proud of our rebellion against Christ Imho gays r given chance to repent, we all r sinners, the church can show their sin, it doesnt mean the church approve LGBT by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jayne said: But you didn't answer my question. Are you saying the funeral should be cancelled because a gay man is in attendance and relative of the deceased or because a gay man was asked to sing? I think the church has an obligation to follow the Word of God. Open and obvious rebellion against the Word is wrong. Now I admit I’m no saint, but I’m ashamed of my sin not proud of it. The church must condemn sin because Christ did. That man can sing somewhere else for his dad. IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Imho gays r given chance to repent, we all r sinners, the church can show their sin, it doesnt mean the church approve LGBT by all means. I disagree. When we are proud of sin we hurt the Body. IMO I will add I’d be shocked if that man repented by singing for his dad. I don’t mean to sound cruel. The homosexual lifestyle is confusing to me. But I notice it is a prideful sin and the church should expose it not tolerate it. The church should not tolerate any sin. Especially ones people are proud of! IMO Edited July 25, 2019 by Kristin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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