God used Evolution to 'create' man

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

We know all about last week. Do not use foolishness to try and excuse what you do not know.

Try to disprove my Last Thursday hypothesis. It has just as much scientific validity as stating that genetics/biochemistry/physics must have been different at some point in the past. There is zero evidence supporting either hypothesis.

[dad2]

8 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Try to disprove my Last Thursday hypothesis. It has just as much scientific validity as stating that genetics/biochemistry/physics must have been different at some point in the past. There is zero evidence supporting either hypothesis.

I do not find history and Scripture to be like that. Using foolishness instead of rational substantive intelligent supported debate is cheap.

[one.opinion]

4 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Using foolishness instead of rational substantive intelligent supported debate is cheap.

You are right, I used a silly example. My apologies if it came across as insulting or demeaning.

However, there is no denying that there is no evidence supporting the idea that genetics/biochemistry/physics are any other related science was fundamentally different at some point. When trying to decide what these sciences were like in past history, the best place to start is to the current evidence and assume that these worked uniformly unless the evidence tells us otherwise.

[dad2]

Just now, one.opinion said:

You are right, I used a silly example. My apologies if it came across as insulting or demeaning.

However, there is no denying that there is no evidence supporting the idea that genetics/biochemistry/physics are any other related science was fundamentally different at some point.

There is no denying we have no genetics or DNA that is usable from Noah's day. So what you do is look at today and the DNA now, and imagine how this present nature resulted in what we see.

My guess at when the flood was currently is around the time of the KT layer. Have you DNA we can use from this era?

 

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When trying to decide what these sciences were like in past history, the best place to start is to the current evidence and assume that these worked uniformly unless the evidence tells us otherwise.

 

Unless nature was the same, the last place we should start would be in the present.

[one.opinion]

21 minutes ago, dad2 said:

My guess at when the flood was currently is around the time of the KT layer. Have you DNA we can use from this era?

Evidence suggests that the KT layer was laid down after the Chicxulub meteor impact about 66 million years ago, so no usable DNA there. Scientists have extracted and sequenced DNA from Neanderthal bones estimated to be about 150,000 years old. The DNA is (as expected) very similar to our own.

24 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Unless nature was the same, the last place we should start would be in the present.

If there were sufficient reason to assume that genetics used to work differently at some point in the past, that would make sense. There isn't.

 

 

[dad2]

48 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

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Evidence suggests that the KT layer was laid down after the Chicxulub meteor impact about 66 million years ago, so no usable DNA there.

 

 The evidence actually does not suggest that. The belief based methods for dating suggest the dates. As for how the iridium actually got dispersed, that is very much a matter of debate.

 

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Scientists have extracted and sequenced DNA from Neanderthal bones estimated to be about 150,000 years old. The DNA is (as expected) very similar to our own.

Very much post flood man, so that is irrelevant.

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If there were sufficient reason to assume that genetics used to work differently at some point in the past, that would make sense. There isn't.

If there were sufficient reason to assume that genetics used to work the same in the past, that would make sense. There isn't. So when we see the records of the past that we have, there is no reason to deny that the realities of life spoken about existed.

 

 

[one.opinion]

1 minute ago, dad2 said:

The evidence actually does not suggest that.

You may not agree with the evidence due to a commitment to your interpretation of the Bible, but it certainly is what the evidence suggests. Do you realize there is no controversy about the evidence among those that do not have a particular conclusion that the evidence must adhere to?

 

9 minutes ago, dad2 said:

As for how the iridium actually got dispersed, that is very much a matter of debate.

Not really, not among those that objectively look at the evidence.

10 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Very much post flood man, so that is irrelevant.

Provide supporting evidence for this conjecture, please.

11 minutes ago, dad2 said:

If there were sufficient reason to assume that genetics used to work the same in the past

We can see how it works now and have no reason to believe that genetic mechanisms were different in some way at some point in past history.

[dad2]

13 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

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You may not agree with the evidence due to a commitment to your interpretation of the Bible, but it certainly is what the evidence suggests. Do you realize there is no controversy about the evidence among those that do not have a particular conclusion that the evidence must adhere to?

 

No. There is no evidence, only beliefs. You believe a same nature in the past existed. Period.

 

[one.opinion]

41 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No. There is no evidence, only beliefs. You believe a same nature in the past existed. Period.

 

You must know that is false. There is abundant evidence. I believe the same nature existed in the past because of evidence. Period.

Are you going to attempt to provide different evidence, or plausible explanations consistent with evidence to support your conjectures?

[The Barbarian]

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

You find it natural to see the Almighty forming a creature in the dirt

Yes, that's using nature.

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

and then blowing life into his nostrils?

As I showed, you his body was produced naturally, but his soul (like ours) was given directly by God.     You're still having a little trouble understanding or maybe accepting what God did.    Just trust Him and let it be His way.