ayin jade Posted September 8, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ReneeIW said: I think Trump is vile and has been exalted. Though it is vile, I’m not sure people actually “exalt” abortion. Ive seen many who exalt abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted September 8, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,805 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Ive seen many who exalt abortion. I've seen it, too. Women holding signs that say, "My abortion was great, thank you!" and "the only good baby is a dead baby" and "stop women from being forced to give birth". I've watched far too many conversations from young women on Facebook who have no clue the abomination of what an abortion is and how they cling to "their rights" and "forced births". It's very ugly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 8, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, ReneeIW said: There are some politicians who go into public service to actually serve and do what they believe is God’s will.Then they check the polls and abandon their beliefs based on what the polls say. Obama was against gay marriage in 2008, and for it after. Mitt Romney was for universal healthcare while governor of a blue state but then ran against his own policies in 2012. To get to the highest office of the land, you have to compromise your principals. Many do because power is intoxicating. They may start out wanting to do the right thing but end up doing what’s best for them in exchange for power. Newt Gingrich told his wife that he was going to run for Congress, and then they would have influence and be rich after he left. You are naive if you don’t know many are like that. i can’t argue about Trump and women. If you don’t know how disrespectful he was then you will have to research it on your own.Again, I’m not going to relive it. I believe Donald is one who ran for president for unselfish reasons, and he hasn't changed a bit. He will listen and change his mind if he thinks he is wrong about something. I think he just changed his mind about the Taliban. I don't think Donald has compromised anything, despite constant attacks against him by the press. I'm sure many politicians just want glory and will do next to anything to acquire it. As for Donald being disrespectful towards women, we've all sinned, so I'm not looking for someone who hasn't sinned. I'm looking for the person who has stopped sinning. People do come out of the woodwork to accuse politicians of sin, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeIW Posted September 8, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 944 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 780 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Ive seen many who exalt abortion. Many as in millions? Or the few people the media chooses to cover? One thing I have in common with Trump is that the media is dishonest. We need them, but they are a for profit business and they sensationalize everything. I think some politicians try and make it an issue every election and they scare women into believing the government wants to control their bodies. I don’t know anyone in my life who exalts abortion. If it were many, I’m sure everyone on this board would know someone who exalts a baby being murdered in the womb. Unless I’m misunderstanding what “exalts” means. Edited September 8, 2019 by ReneeIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ReneeIW said: Many as in millions? Or the few people the media chooses to cover? One thing I have in common with Trump is that the media is dishonest. We need them, but they are a for profit business and they sensationalize everything. I think some politicians try and make it an issue every election and they scare women into believing the government wants to control their bodies. I don’t know anyone in my life who exalts abortion. If it were many, I’m sure everyone on this board would know someone who exalts a baby being murdered in the womb. Unless I’m misunderstanding what “exalts” means. Many, not a few. Ive seen some personally as well. Not just a media hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2019 8 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: When I think of vileness, I think of homosexuality and abortion on demand. What about you? I think of hate, because we all sin every day, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, john1 said: I think of hate, because we all sin every day, many times. We all sin every day, many times? Was Jesus wrong, then, when he instructed us to repent, and that we must be perfect like our Father in heaven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: Was Jesus wrong, then, when he instructed us to repent, and that we must be perfect like our Father in heaven? The bible is a very complex book, not easy to understand after reading it 100 times, I've read it 2 or maybe 3 hundred by now. If you read it once it looks like it's all about sin, or lack of sin. I started reading the bible when I was 21, that was 37 years ago, now I study it 30 or 40 hours a week. Look at john chapter 8 verse 31,32 To the jews who believed him Jesus said if you hold to my teaching you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. In 1 John chapter 4 verse 8 and 16 It says God is love. Ephesians chapter 1 verse 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love And 1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8 Love covers a great many sins. Now can you honestly tell me your perfect like God, if you are it's only through love but I don't think anyone can claim that, because there's many verses that say everyone sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, john1 said: The bible is a very complex book, not easy to understand after reading it 100 times, I've read it 2 or maybe 3 hundred by now. If you read it once it looks like it's all about sin, or lack of sin. I started reading the bible when I was 21, that was 37 years ago, now I study it 30 or 40 hours a week. Look at john chapter 8 verse 31,32 To the jews who believed him Jesus said if you hold to my teaching you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. In 1 John chapter 4 verse 8 and 16 It says God is love. Ephesians chapter 1 verse 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love And 1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8 Love covers a great many sins. Now can you honestly tell me your perfect like God, if you are it's only through love but I don't think anyone can claim that, because there's many verses that say everyone sins. The command, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand," is easy to understand: Repent. (Matt 4:17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 9, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, john1 said: The bible is a very complex book, not easy to understand after reading it 100 times, I've read it 2 or maybe 3 hundred by now. If you read it once it looks like it's all about sin, or lack of sin. I started reading the bible when I was 21, that was 37 years ago, now I study it 30 or 40 hours a week. Look at john chapter 8 verse 31,32 To the jews who believed him Jesus said if you hold to my teaching you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. In 1 John chapter 4 verse 8 and 16 It says God is love. Ephesians chapter 1 verse 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love And 1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8 Love covers a great many sins. Now can you honestly tell me your perfect like God, if you are it's only through love but I don't think anyone can claim that, because there's many verses that say everyone sins. The Bible does not lie. It teaches us that the sons of men will exalt vileness. Don't be one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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