Coliseum Posted November 16, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2019 God knows the reasons He does things. We must trust Him. We do not know that the torture or disfigurement of someone in their time might not be the very instrument that saves many at another. The rippling effects from what God allows and permits at a certain moment are on many occasions unseen in ours. All of the great men of faith in the Bible trusted God far beyond what their experiences discerned. And there are times when God sacrifices some for more noble purposes by molding his clay for destruction instead of life. God does whatever He pleases! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted November 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) As we yet live, there may not come a full realization to the ways and will of our Lord. We do have to come to accept it, however. It can be very difficult at times, but God understands. He is our comforter, and we need to envelope ourselves in Him. Easy to say - not always so to apply. Edited November 16, 2019 by BeauJangles 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned by Grace Posted November 18, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) How can a living GOD?? ......................... This may sound pretty blunt to some here but... God made everything and owns everything, and He doesn't need our permission to do ANYTHING.. Look at the destruction of the entire human race in the flood of Noah's time, or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, or the walls of Jericho, or caused the Red Sea to engulf the Pharoah and his army....boy God was busy having His way . God didn't seem to need anyone's permission or approval then. God is a very narrow minded GOD, and has from before the beginning has had a plan as to how all things will go that matter, and you can decide all day long what God will do or won't do, or what is fair or not fair for God to do, but He isn't interested in any attitude but surrender to HIS over-all plan that He has invited us to take part in. It's called His "Oikinomia" Greek for His ECONOMY which means "He's in charge and all that has happened He has allowed because it fits into how the END TIME will unfold." We have a very narrow understanding of HIS_STORY (History), but He not only knows what the end is going to play out like, but He created the end and the time it will happen \ Edited November 18, 2019 by Seasoned by Grace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted November 23, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Rev 21:4 and god will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There shall be no more death nor sorrow nor crying. There shall be no more pain for the former things have passed away. Edited November 23, 2019 by Mike Mclees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleGuy Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 777 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 9:30 AM, JohnD said: I often hear this question / complaint from people who (knowingly or not) are placing themselves on God's throne. "A loving God according to MY standards, MY definitions..." Dr. James Dobson once said about his son Ryan who had a badly infected foot that had to be drained... I killed him to see his young son screaming with pain as the Doctor drained the foot... it was so painful that he (Dr. Dobson) had to help hold Ryan down. And in his son's eyes he could see the look of being betrayed by the one he loved and trusted most. Dr Dobson was in tears just reflecting back on it. "I'll never forget that look on his face as if to say 'Daddy, how could you let them do this to me?'" Ah, but along comes somebody who says this was child abuse.. and they kid would have been better off leaving the infection alone... Then Dr Dobson would be speaking of his late son. But by Jiminy, those folks sitting on God's throne know best... In the Philosophy of Religion literature, it's called SKEPTICAL THEISM. It's like this: The existence of a God (who is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent) does NOT entail that it would be likely that we would understand all the good reasons for His actions. Thus, human ignorance of good reasons for God's actions is NOT evidence against the existence of such reasons, thus it's not evidence against the existence of God. Thus, the SKEPTICAL THEISTIC defense against the problem of evil is resolved. AND, divine revelation justifies knowledge. So, Biblical divine revelation justifies the claim that God is good, even if we don't understand all the details. And we should NOT expect to understand all the details, given Rom.11:33 and Is.55:9. blessings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted December 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2019 How can a loving God... rid the world of suffering? Eliminate all humans. How can a loving God... stick with His original plan? He is doing that right now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrection Priest Posted December 14, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 467 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2019 How can a loving God . . . ? I think it's called tough-love. God has allowed His free will created children to experience life without His full protection. Ten million years into eternity, we will remember. We won't suffer or still mourn, but we will remember. And we will never again choose to live outside His will. But if this disaster had never happened, we would never know how much He loves us, or know what He was willing to suffer - for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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