The Holy Sabbath Day

[Smalcald]

But what does following the 4th commandment mean?

The true Sabbath spoken of in the fourth commandment is Saturday, beginning at sundown on Friday night.

In addition it means to literally refrain from all work, paid or otherwise. Some Sabbath observers demand no driving on the Sabbath, no work at all of any sort including cooking, thus cooking is done the day before.

I think we need to look at what we are talking about here.

Right now the only Christian denomination that I know of in the US which comes close to practicing a true Sabbath, are the 7th Day Adventists. There may be others; maybe some of you guys know them?

But if my family were to do this we would be totally alone. Where I live, which is a very small town there is no Christian denomination which practices a true Saturday Sabbath. I know that is not a reason for not observing the Sabbath, but there are practicalities to consider. If we are going to do something we should really do it, really put our heart into it. I mean the commandment on adultery does not mean that we kind of don't commit adultery.

I don't think we should fool ourselves though that going to Church on Sunday morning is following the Sabbath spoken of in the Fourth Commandment it is not and I don

[Guest yod]

I don't think going to church on Sunday (or not) has anything to do with the Sabbath.

[Smalcald]

I don't think going to church on Sunday (or not) has anything to do with the Sabbath.

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I agree.

I do see however kind of a mish mash of thinking surrounding going to Church on Sunday and observing a Sabbath. In the US we originally had things like the blue laws, which further confused the issue about a Sunday Sabbath for many people. Things like not letting liquor or beer to be sold on Sunday or in some cases not allowing businesses to be open on Sunday. So for many Christians in the US there has been this kind of confused thinking about what the Sabbath is and what the fourth commandment means and even what day is meant in the bible concerning the Sabbath.

[Guest yod]

I don't think going to church on Sunday (or not) has anything to do with the Sabbath.

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I agree.

I do see however kind of a mish mash of thinking surrounding going to Church on Sunday and observing a Sabbath. In the US we originally had things like the blue laws, which further confused the issue about a Sunday Sabbath for many people. Things like not letting liquor or beer to be sold on Sunday or in some cases not allowing businesses to be open on Sunday. So for many Christians in the US there has been this kind of confused thinking about what the Sabbath is and what the fourth commandment means and even what day is meant in the bible concerning the Sabbath.

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Those blue laws were an admission that the church does think the 4th Commandment is still in effect...but they did get the day wrong.

I don't think they will be kept out of heaven for it...but they missed the mark, eh?

[Guest shiloh357]

The first Christian Churches worshiped every day, and many also kept a Saturday Sabbath.

I wish we could go back to that. How much better would our day go, how much stronger would we be, if we could meet together for prayer and encourage each other every morning? But we have arranged our lives in such a way, that even a consistent personal quiet time everyday is a major achievement for many of us.

[Smalcald]

The first Christian Churches worshiped every day, and many also kept a Saturday Sabbath.

I wish we could go back to that. How much better would our day go, how much stronger would we be, if we could meet together for prayer and encourage each other every morning? But we have arranged our lives in such a way, that even a consistent personal quiet time everyday is a major achievement for many of us.

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I totall agree.

The one thing I envy the Catholics over is daily Mass.

[Guest Zayit]

How does walking in something good and true make you under it?

[Guest Zayit]

Who here is sinless?

[Remnantrob]

Christians have NEVER been under the Mosaic Law Covenant. The Law became OBSOLETE at Jesus death, Heb 8:13, 2Cor 3:3-11.

The apostle Paul was a Jew, if the Mosaic Law was in effect Paul would have been required to obey it. Paul said that he was NOT under the Law, Rom 6:14,15, 1Cor 9:20. Over and over the Bible tells us that the old law was done away with, Rom 7:6, 8:1-3.

Tsk..tsk...tsk. Careful study would reveal that the "Mosiac Law/Decologue" was in existence before it was written on stone for the children of Israel. They...I believe are the foundation of God's kingdom. To get rid of the law is to remove the very character of God. And before God would ever do that to himself, He would make a way to remove sin from the sinner(Hence the death of Christ). I know that the law being obsolete at the cross was a popular doctrine, but I've seen more and more christians accept the fact that the Moral Law of God is not and will not be obsolete.

[Guest yod]

The Law became OBSOLETE at Jesus death, Heb 8:13, 2Cor 3:3-11.

With all due respect, here is where I think you do err, sir.

The Law is STILL condemning all sin in everyone. We can't sin and have excuse because it is all written down for us there.

Those who live by faith in the Spirit of Holiness have the penalty of the law removed but that hardly makes the law VOID as you are describing.

There is an eternal purpose for every yod and dalit of His Word.