inclusive lie

[Jayne]

17 hours ago, grahampaul said:

As the title suggests what is this incluesive lie some mention?

I've never heard of an inclusive lie.  Could you use it in a sentence?

[JustPassingThru]

May I point out that "it" didn't start with "Rome," it started way back in Genesis 4 with only 4 people living outside of the Garden and the "intended" Will of God for their lives, ...that is when religion and it religious "works" of rites, rules and regulations began, ...as opposed to "Faith" in God Word, ...the story of Cain's works and Abel's faith, and every "religion" since then has it's "works" whether it be called catholic or protestant, ...there is only one Church, one Body, one Faith and on Mediator for man before God, the God-Man Jesus Christ and the "only" work He tells us to do is "believe" in/on Him.

Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He has sent. John 6:29

Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in Me. John 14:1

Believe what?

I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me (Jesus). John 14:6

Any other "presented" truth is a lie of/from the devil!

Lord bless

[frienduff thaylorde]

Its quite plain and simple .    IF we don't love CHRIST ,   we don't Love GOD .    Who we obey is Who we love and whose we are .

A lamb who is HIS ,   loves all Jesus said and taught , His commandments are not a burden but a joy to the true lambs .

They will not twist nor omit His words .   To the lambs JESUS is their hope and their hearts are above on HIM .

They know the pattern and they walk IN the SPIRIT .      They have the fruit of the SPIRIT ,  which is in all goodness , righteousness and truth , proving what is acceptable to GOD .

The pattern for any who does err ,   repent .    If brethren err , lambs move fast to ensure they repent of the error and be restored .

In all things they follow the lamb,   and they love all things He said and the apostels wrote down too .    To them the Words of our LORD are as the finest honeycomb .   They will not sit under the mix of man 

for it stinks .    They will not willfully omit or twist Anything JESUS said or the apostels said .    to them every word is and does apply to them as it did When it was first said and recorded .

They don't adapt to the changing world and churchs that go with the times and claim things like oh Those were different times back then . NOPE , they KNOW the words of GOD are ETERNAL 

and they love and embrace every letter the apostels ever wrote .   They heed not mens wisdom , but HEED ONLY the voice of the Great shepard .  And they will not be bought or sold out to ANYTHING CONTRARY to CHRIST .

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

May I point out that "it" didn't start with "Rome," it started way back in Genesis 4 with only 4 people living outside of the Garden and the "intended" Will of God for their lives, ...that is when religion and it religious "works" of rites, rules and regulations began, ...as opposed to "Faith" in God Word, ...the story of Cain's works and Abel's faith, and every "religion" since then has it's "works" whether it be called catholic or protestant, ...there is only one Church, one Body, one Faith and on Mediator for man before God, the God-Man Jesus Christ and the "only" work He tells us to do is "believe" in/on Him.

Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He has sent. John 6:29

Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in Me. John 14:1

Believe what?

I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me (Jesus). John 14:6

Any other "presented" truth is a lie of/from the devil!

Lord bless

Correct , nothing saves us BUT FAITH IN JESUS .        Yet many say this as well and yet they KNOW HIM NOT and are NOT HIS and not saved either .

There is a difference between a lamb that follows JESUS and one who claims to know him and follows another jesus and men .       

As paul once said ,   better examine to see if one truly walks in the faith .

Better make sure its the real JESUS we love and are following .     A hint ,  if its contrary to the bible JESUS ,   got bad news ,    its false . 

[grahampaul]

thanks for the replys,allways willing to learn.so it is the antichrist you were talking about?.

[grahampaul]

i cannot answer about the" inclusive lie" from Gods perspective since i  do not find the term  writen in His word.i can only presume from its content that it refers to the anti christ and the end times as a generalisation. we know the anti christ is in the world even now for Christ told us so.for more on the inclusive lie read the forum topic" a serious and good reminder"by frenduf thaylorde.

[frienduff thaylorde]

16 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

right, @frienduff thaylorde

TRUE LAMBS AKA CHRISTIANS believe, love, obey, and repent when they disobey because they LOVE the Lord and then and only then will He remain in and with them and they in and with Him and that is ETERNAL LIFE as per John 14:15 to 24 and 1 John 3:23 and multiple other passages

JESUS said and implied this ,    He said to those who believed on HIM ,   IF you CONTINUE in me then you are my desciples indeed , and you shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall make you free .

The problem is many either come to a jesus men preached so they never came to him ,  or they did come , tasted , endured for a while , but either temptation or persecution either choked the word out of them 

or they get offended .   What lambs need to understand is that sin can harden a heart .    Paul knew it and JESUS had explained as to why folks don't continue in HIM .

But there is something I truly feel you need to be fully reminded about .   So let me ask a question .

How often do you feel like if you were to die you are not fully sure where you would end up .    Do you ever feel this way .

Really pray about that question .   Because I have seen a fear in you ,  such a fear that you even want to believe that if somehow one took the mark of the beast they could perhaps even repent of it .

I have watched some of the things you said ,   and I see a fear in you .    Its like you truly don't have that enduring peace .

I am not talking about if the enemy tries and tempts our minds ,  for he will do so .     But when the thought arises in your mind that if you were to die tonight , where you would end up 

what is your overall thought on this .    Saints need to be fully persuaded IN WHAT JESUS has done for us ,  BANK ON THAT as TOTAL MEANS OF SALVATION .

There is something else ,  and I know its off topic , but there are some serious things you need to cease from .    The idea one can take the mark and repent ,   and the other is prayer for the dead .

Prayer for the dead shows a lack of belief in the POWER of the BLOOD and what JESUS taught .    Because the truth is ,   so long as a man or woman is alive on earth ,  they have a chance to be saved .

But if they die ,    all the prayers in the world has no power to save them .  they ALREADY DENIED THE ONLY POWER  THAT COULD SAVE THEM , THE FAITH IN JESUS AND POWER OF HIS BLOOD .

This has me greatly worried and deeply concerned for you .   We cannot save a soul ,  only JESUS can and while we by the Spirit are co workers and fellow helpers of the truth 

we preach JESUS and Him crucified , the power of His blood and the atonement that it brings to all that has believe  .   We do examine to see if we walk in the faith and we do remind all 

to be in obedience to Christ and we do remind all that those who are His love , obey Him .

But I see this fear in you ,  and I think its because you are not totally trusting in the Blood of Christ .   You believe it ,  but I don't think you fully trust in it .

You should know by now ,  we ought never to pray for the dead for our prayers for them cannot save them .    ONLY FAITH IN JESUS COULD HAVE and if they rejected that ,   they are damned period .

Edited January 27, 2020 by frienduff thaylorde

[frienduff thaylorde]

11 hours ago, Godismyloveforever said:

I want op to answer Jane and Miss Muffet questions. 

 

Two scriptures that show the total contradiction to the inclusive lie of ecumincalism .

Number one .    That if you CONFESS HIM by mouth and believe that GOD has raised Him from the dead ,  YOU shall be saved .

That totally contradicts the inclusive lie which teaches that it don't matter what religion one is in , if somehow they have love , they somehow know him and are saved .

Two .     IF any enters not in by the DOOR ,   comes in some other way , they are a theif and a robber .

Again inclusive lies say otherwise , it says anyone of any religion , is saved and knows the WAY , KNOWS HIM ,   if they are walking in this so called love and good works .

This lie comes from the one who comes as a robber and a thief , who is satan himself .    He comes to steal the inheritance and makes it seem as though the path to salvation is found in his inclusive lie .

He is a liar and the Father of it .    Lambs must be fully persuaded that the only way to be saved is to confess JESUS BY MOUTH and believe God has raised HIM from the dead .

For if we allow folks in any religion or  any who does not confess JESUS as LORD  to feel safe in their darkness ,   I promise we condemn them and ourselves .   FOR LOVE that is of GOD 

desires NONE to perish and if we allow these folks to believe an inclusive lie or follow their false religion ,   we preach death unto them and we love them not .

And if we have not the love of GOD ,  then we are not his .     Now I understand  that many did not know what the inclusive lie  meant or entails .   But now we do .

SO now we must be on guard against the unity move that is joining all faiths to the MOTHER who preaches it , ROME .    IF any man , woman or child 

or even your pet is in a church that is seeking unity with the catholic church ,   YOU BETTER flee it ,  it means your leaders are already infected with the lie and HE who teaches the lie ,  

the pope .    Its mother is the harlot church which has infected many and its father is the devil .    I know that sounds grave , it may even sound judgmental or hateful ,  ITS NOT judgemental or hateful .

ITS a dire warning out of great love for all to have no business with HER or those who are in league with the lie and do its work . 

[grahampaul]

thank you for the explanation,so the work of the antichrist then.