How can you have assurance of salvation ?

[johnthebaptist]

40 minutes ago, Behold said:

Jesus said....."you must be born again".

Commandment keeping is irrelevant regarding whether God saves you, or not.

So, if you are trying to keep commandments so that God can or will accept you, then go ahead and stop now.

Understand that God didnt come here as Christ to shed His blood on the Cross so that later a person can try something else like commandment keeping to be saved.

Honestly, your answers are so vague and lacking any sort of detail, that even after reading 10-15 post you have sent to me, i still can't even begin to understand what you BELIEVE.

You seem to have a Theology of Repent and keep commandments, and that wont save you.

Can you offer anything else, that you BELIEVE, that actually has to do with JESUS other then.....>"he made His presence known??

How about this..

When Jesus made His presence known to you, what did YOU DO?

 

When Jesus made his presence known to me, I began walking with him. 

[Behold]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

When Jesus made his presence known to me, I began walking with him. 

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold

[johnthebaptist]

6 minutes ago, Behold said:

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

I believe I understand salvation quite well. 

[johnthebaptist]

8 minutes ago, Behold said:

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

 

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

I believe I understand salvation quite well. 

I think of all the theologians and biblical scholars who don't obey Jesus and therefore don't have a clue what God is doing.

[johnthebaptist]

9 minutes ago, Behold said:

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

 

2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

I believe I understand salvation quite well. 

 

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

 

I think of all the theologians and biblical scholars who don't obey Jesus and therefore don't have a clue what God is doing.

Once you start doing things the way God taught you to do them, you start understanding his plan. You even understand what salvation REALLY is.

[Behold]

5 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

I believe I understand salvation quite well. 

Well, yesterday, you didnt understand it at all.   Here is what you wrote.

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   22 hours ago,  johnthebaptist said: 

Was I saved? You tell me. Being saved was never taught me. 

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So today, you understand it quite well..............is that because you read what i wrote when i explained it to you?

Also,  I asked you if you can tell us here, about your  experience with Jesus that you had , in 1973, when you say He made His presence known to you.

Care to tell us about that?

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold

[johnthebaptist]

13 minutes ago, Behold said:

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

It's great to be saved, but it's only the beginning. There is much to do.

[johnthebaptist]

14 minutes ago, Behold said:

Does Jesus allow you to openly share how He made his presence know to you back in '1973?

Also. you list "Theology" as an interest.   So, im assuming its been one for you since '1973?  ?

But no matter how long.........could you tell me how you can be a student of Theology, as you list it in your Bio page as an "interest".... and yet, not know anything about Salvation as it relates to Christianity?

As Salvation, is "The Gospel".......so, you've never heard of it until yesterday as you told us you dont know anything about being "saved" or what this means.

 

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

It's great to be saved, but it's only the beginning. There is much to do.

For example, there is no room for arrogance in heaven.

[Behold]

3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

 

 

Once you start doing things the way God taught you to do them, you start understanding his plan. You even understand what salvation REALLY is.

Yesterday you said you didnt understand salvation because it was never taught you.

Today, you say you understand it, and say that its "doing things the way God taught you to do them".

So, is that repenting and keeping commandments to be saved, as you said, a few day ago?   Is that what you mean?

[Behold]

2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

 

For example, there is no room for arrogance in heaven.

Is it arrogance or is it dishonesty to be on a Christian Forum, ignoring questions, while giving answers that are avoiding the Questions?

Or is it both?

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold