How can you have assurance of salvation ?

[johnthebaptist]

3 minutes ago, Behold said:

Well, yesterday, you didnt understand it at all.   Here is what you wrote.

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   22 hours ago,  johnthebaptist said: 

Was I saved? You tell me. Being saved was never taught me. 

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So today, you understand it quite well..............is that because you read what i wrote when i explained it to you?

Also,  I asked you if you can tell us here, about your  experience with Jesus that you had , in 1973, when you say He made His presence known to you.

Care to tell us about that?

You say I don't understand salvation, because I don't believe exactly the same thing as you do. I suspect you don't understand what hell is.

[Behold]

On 2/6/2020 at 7:04 PM, Wnj086 said:

Hey, I’m just trying to get some help and advice. My pastor says that you can know that you know that you know that you’re saved. 
This torments me. I want to be sure!!! 

If you are born again, then you know you are saved.

John the Apostle, said that you can know you have Eternal Life., as this life is IN Jesus.   So, if you have JESUS in you  ("Christ in you the hope of Glory", who IS Eternal LIfe, then you have Eternal life.   Eternal Life, is just another word for being born again.

Salvation, Born Again, Redeemed, Bought with a price, Sanctified by the Blood, Imputed Righteousness, Saved by Grace Thru Faith....... Eternal Life.......These are all just the vocabulary that explain the same fact, regarding becoming a New Creation "in Christ".

[Behold]

21 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

You say I don't understand salvation, because I don't believe exactly the same thing as you do. I suspect you don't understand what hell is.

No, you said you have not had anyone explain to you what being "saved" means.

I didnt say it. You said it.

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   22 hours ago,  johnthebaptist said: 

Was I saved? You tell me. Being saved was never taught me. 

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And instead of suspecting whatever about me, why dont you stop avoiding telling us about your encounter with Jesus you had in 1973, as now i have asked you 3 times.

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold

[Behold]

32 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

It's great to be saved, but it's only the beginning. There is much to do.

You've already said that a few times in different posts, and then. you dont explain it.

Can you explain what you mean by , "there is much to do"?

 

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold

[johnthebaptist]

1 hour ago, Behold said:

Yesterday you said you didnt understand salvation because it was never taught you.

Today, you say you understand it, and say that its "doing things the way God taught you to do them".

So, is that repenting and keeping commandments to be saved, as you said, a few day ago?   Is that what you mean?

What I don't understand is the way people talk about salvation. I think most don't understand what salvation is.

[johnthebaptist]

1 hour ago, Behold said:

Is it arrogance or is it dishonesty to be on a Christian Forum, ignoring questions, while giving answers that are avoiding the Questions?

Or is it both?

Ignoring questions? Notice how I keep my posts brief. I don't lecture people, and I don't consider it my responsibility to respond to those who lecture me.

[johnthebaptist]

56 minutes ago, Behold said:

No, you said you have not had anyone explain to you what being "saved" means.

I didnt say it. You said it.

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   22 hours ago,  johnthebaptist said: 

Was I saved? You tell me. Being saved was never taught me. 

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And instead of suspecting whatever about me, why dont you stop avoiding telling us about your encounter with Jesus you had in 1973, as now i have asked you 3 times.

 

There are a lot of people who haven't repented of their sin, AND I AM NOT REFERRING TO YOU, who are always talking about being saved. THAT is what I don't understand - novice Christians lecturing the world about salvation. Salvation is the first step of many.

[johnthebaptist]

39 minutes ago, Behold said:

You've already said that a few times in different posts, and then. you dont explain it.

Can you explain what you mean by , "there is much to do"?

 

 

Read the Bible and follow the Lord's instructions.

[Behold]

54 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

What I don't understand is the way people talk about salvation. I think most don't understand what salvation is.

"Jesus Saves".

"Jesus came into this world to save sinners".

"The Cross"

"Finished work of Jesus on the Cross".

"Salvation is a free gift"

"The gift of Righteousness"

Thats how people on a Christian forum like this one talk about it, unless they are a Legalist/Heretic.

In that case, they'll try to talk about self effort to try to keep themselves saved.    This would include > trying to replace the Cross with = :, repenting, confessing sin, water baptism, enduring to the end,  obedience, keeping the Torah, keeping the commandments, etc.

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold

[Behold]

58 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Ignoring questions? Notice how I keep my posts brief. I don't lecture people, and I don't consider it my responsibility to respond to those who lecture me.

I think that if you feel that me having to ask you many times the same question, over several DAYS,  because you won't answer the FIRST time, ....is you being "lectured", then perhaps you can take a moment and reflect on your point of view.

Let me put it another way.    If i had said to you that in 1973,  i had a personal encounter with Jesus,  and you asked me to tell you about it, i can promise you that a few days later you would not still be asking me about it, as i would have answered you the first time.

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Behold