Where Are All My Pro-Lifers On This

[LadyKay]

Trump is proposing cuts to medicaid, SNAP, S. Security and other programs. Now all you pro-lifers out there who hold Trump in such high regard. Proclaiming him to be the pro-life president. Just how are low income people suppose to care for their babies that they choose not to abort  without medical help or food programs to feed them?   The abortion rates have fallen over the last few years due in part to programs  (such as the ones Trump is proposing to cut) that give aid to families with needy children. I fear that with these cuts, the abortion rates will be going back up, due to people being unable to provide for their babies.  So let's hear it pro-lifers! Are you going to stand up for the unborn once they become the born? Are you truly pro-life. Or are you just pro-birth and that should be the end of you giving a care once them babies are born?  

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/10/trump-budget-propose-savage-cuts-medicare-medicaid-and-social-security-while-hiking

The budget reportedly includes destructive changes to Medicaid, SNAP, Social Security, and other assistance programs that help Americans make ends meet—all while extending his tax cuts for millionaires and wealthy corporations."
—Rep. John Yarmuth

 

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by LadyKay

[ayin jade]

Have you checked out how much fraud is going on in those programs? 

How much did fraud grow? It jumped to $592.7 million in 2016, up a staggering 61% from $367.1 million in 2012, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. (See Table 46 in the report.) The monetary figures are "Fraud Dollars Determined By Investigations." In other words, these figures are based on identified incidents. In 2016, the number of fraud investigations totaled 963,965, up more than 30% from 2012. (Side note: Almost half of those investigations were in New York State, according to the report.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonconstable/2018/04/04/the-facts-about-food-stamp-fraud/#3190e8ecf880

 

 

[ayin jade]

What I really want to address is how wrong it is for you to post to deliberately taunt your fellow Christians. 

It is one thing to have an opposing viewpoint and to discuss it. It is another to deliberately stir up strife. Shame on you.

[LadyKay]

10 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Have you checked out how much fraud is going on in those programs? 

So the answer is to just cut them off?  Let them babies go hungry because a small amount of people maybe cheating the system. 

Edited February 10, 2020 by LadyKay

[ayin jade]

14 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

So the answer is to just cut them off?  Let them babies go hungry because a small amount of people maybe cheating the system. 

How is proposing cuts to those programs, to cut down fraud, equate to harming babies? The media is trying to portray that trumps cuts are harming kids, but thats not the truth. 

[Coliseum]

Regardless of what Trump does, I believe parents have a responsibility to provide for their children. If they are too poor because they are not allotted the expenses, then having children is an expense they cannot afford. Sadly, thousands---perhaps millions of children already out of the womb go hungry because of poor planning and poor judgement. If we take that logic to its end, that many babies and children in the East die of starvation every year. God expects us to have a measure of self-control and self-discipline.  Having children and loving them takes preparation. Love is more than a feeling.

It is a touchy subject and assaulting one's character, insulting others, name-calling, and belittling others for their views is wrong on any scale. It is important to have a view we can be comfortable sharing without negative consequences for doing so.

[LadyKay]

Parton me for my bluntness. But I wanted to get your attention. I feel very passionate about this subject. Trump is cutting social programs in order to build his wall and build up the military.  We are becoming a nation that cares more about our ability to rage war then we do about caring for our people. Sort of like what North Korea dose, and I do not want our country to go in that direction.   The people being the old, sick, the young and the needy. Giving that so many of you here support the pro-life movement. Care for the needy should be part of that. Well that is just how I feel about it all. I do not think you can be truly pro-life and not see the need for social programs. People are not perfect and life  is not perfect. Stuff in life happens that you don't expect to happen. Jobs end. Sickness comes. Things just go bad sometimes. So not only do I feel that as pro-livers. We need to care for the born as well as the unborn. So think what you like. But I felt I needed to speak out on this in a blunt way. Good day to you all and God bless. 

Edited February 11, 2020 by LadyKay

[Amigo42]

Yeah, his crazy budget is so corrosive.  The republicans give billions of dollars in tax breaks to the super wealthy who truly don't need it while trying to cut support for those who truly need it.  It's disgusting.  What's sad is how so many people from poor States blindly support his agenda without realizing its detrimental affects to their livelihood.  

[Equippers]

On 2/11/2020 at 8:54 AM, Abby-Joy said:

Trump's cuts have harmed more than babies...I know of elderly who can no longer get the medical care they once had because of the changes Trump has made. And they are already well below poverty level...although they worked all their lives and paid taxes all those years.

interesting.

[Equippers]

On 2/11/2020 at 8:56 AM, Abby-Joy said:

Are they just weeding out fraud cases or cutting help across the board? If they are only weeding out fraud cases, fine ...if they are cutting back on aid to truly needy people, that's different.

good point.