Making sense of the pandemic

[dad2]

Making sense of the corona virus

When I learned of some recent examples of sex change operations involving children as young as six or seven in some cases, I felt an anger that I believe God also feels. (Edit: the actual surgery apparently happens later in teen years, but the process including drugs starts earlier)    There are many societal sins in these times that all reach biblically epic proportions. If the west and kingdoms of this world have crossed a line in the sand with God what would we expect to see?
I would expect to see action. In the future, in bible prophesies, we see that nations receive judgments of God trying to make them repent from their evil ways. In the past, we saw God taking action in Egypt and sending judgments to force Pharoah to get the point and change his ways or at least to let God's children go.
In both these cases, a successive series of judgments from God followed each other until the nations were broken as a result of not heeding His message and judgments.
If this is the case with the plague that has come on the world then the only remedy would be to cease from the wicked things that brought it on and to cry out to God. The judgments in the bible were on nations in these cases for the most part, rather than individuals. There will come a time when God cleans up the books for all people, but that time was not in the past and was not in the last day prophesies of the bible.
Knowing that certain levels of sin and evil practices are bound to result in God stepping in, the question with the modern plague arises, is this a judgment from God? If it is, then the only way to stop it is for nations of the world to change drastically. If they did not, then what would be expected if this were a message to nations from God, is that even clearer messages via judgments would follow and there would be an end to the world order of the day.
We do know that a new world order will come to exist in the very final days of man's rule on earth according to bible prophesy. If this plague is from God then it would mean that we are entering that final period very soon. (unless nations cease sex-change operations, abortions, and some of the sins outlined in Scripture that have now reached heaven).
For many bible believers, this would make sense as to why such a horrible plague was allowed to enter the world today. One result of the virus has been that hospitals and medical systems have been, and will increasingly be overburdened. Nonessential surgeries are being canceled. If the plague was here as a result of the aforementioned reasons, that would seem to make sense that one of the first casualties of the event was the medical system.
Looking for a vaccine or cure would not work, because if the message was from God, some other event would follow that would accomplish the purpose anyhow. The only solution would be to change the ways of guilty nations and to repent.
The coming days will reveal if this scenario is correct or not. In any case, I would recommend that nations pray, and ask forgiveness and healing.

Edited March 23, 2020 by dad2

[Daniel Marsh]

Since there were no prophets before hand warning the world or the US,   I doubt this is God's Judgement.

[SimonB]

More to the point, the nations themselves do not appear to want to change.

If they go to God and pray "please save us God from this horror, oh but, by the way, I'm not going to even acknowledge that the current behaviour is wrong let alone attempt to change it... etc", what do you think God's response will be?

Look around and see the popular behaviour. The phrase "as in the time's of Noah" seems to be more and more relevant.

I can and do wish that we could change our ways but I can see it wont happen.

Better to put your faith in God.

[TheBlade]

There are prophets today. Though they can't tell us what to do as they could in the OT. For you and me that believe in Christ have the same spirit

A judgement? I know how it was before Christ.. I know "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.". I Know what Christ took the cross... for the sin of the world. I know Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains. So.. God still judges those that have been judged already? Those that know nothing what so ever about Him? Yet no one is free to just sin.. but.. what SIN is God judging? That Christ didnt die for?

See I don't say every earthquake or storm or virus in this case is some judgement. Then when I hear from both sides, from those I respect that give a different version. God judging vs no judgment. What I do know is the Father will use this for HIS glory.. as in GOOD. Its just.. I try to think if God IS judging.. so Hes judging the sinner.. that is already judged.. that then die.. to then be judged again? YEAH why would anyone not be scared or not want Him.

I read Matt-John.. I never came away with this GOD is out to get me.. or judge me. I got .. WOW what love He has for this world. I look at all the evil that happens now as ..even in the OT.. this is what we get when GOD is put 2nd. The fact that Jesus said.. this is not His kingdom. He said Satan is the God of this world. We know what Satan did to Job. We know Satan comes to kill steal and destroy. GOD can NEVER do that..ever. Like oh blood of Jesus..what happen to the Jewish people. God was made? God JUDGED THEM? Buildings get destroyed and thousands died? God did it? But.. yet God warned people "DON'T GO TO WORK TODAY". Lucky I guess..yet there is no luck with God. 

All I am saying HAHA is I don't know. I don't see this as a judgment. It does rain on the just and unjust. There are things that the Father will NEVER do to the righteous. It won't touch us. I look for fear worry doubt.. things like that. That is never of God. And God will ALWAYS warn...always. Then those of the world.. would have no excuse. God always makes a way out at fist..

OT.. Israel close to God.. fall.. something bad happens they return to God. That alone was NEVER the way God wanted it. Bad things happen the farther we get AWAY from God.