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  • In Mathew 24 Jesus tells the disciples about the end days. Chapter 24 and other scripture have been used and abused ever since the apostles were gone. We have been in the last days for a long time but never have we felt so uneasy  about it as what we see happening in our present time. Every time something that fits biblical prophecy the end times teachers are suddenly on the seen. U Tube becomes the golden stage for them. Don't get me wrong I do have respect for some who don't try to sell you a bill of goods. Many have sold their goods to the church for a long time. They use every  opportunity to push  their false doctrines that give false hopes.

Im here to try and point out why we are so easily miss lead.  How do they get away with it ?  Laziness to seek out truth. Hoseea 4:5=6My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge because You hast rejected knowledge. Because thou hast rejected knowledge I will also reject you that you be no priest unto me

   Lets also llook at 2nd Timothy 2: 15

Show thyself approved unto God a workman who needeth not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth

2nd Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears

These three scripture  tell us why many  will fall away in the last days because if ignorance, apathy, and unbelief. Rather than studying to see if a doctrine is true they listen to the scarlet tounges of false teachers twist scripture. We want convenience more than seeking after the truth. If the preacher sounds good he is hired.  Just because a preachers sermons sound good is not a guarantee  they are teaching the word right.  We will buy anything they say. All they have to do is twist a little scripture and there you have it. I know because I have been there and seen it. I have found the truth from deception.

There are 2 unbiblical doctrine that certain churches use to fill their pews because they are not wanting to find the truth but rather convenience.  

I would mention them but that would start another wash load that never gets clean. Why ? because they settle for off white.

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The last days Jesus spoke about will not come until the antichrist come to be revealed and he is the 8th king of Revelation 17.

The arrival of this 8th king will make complete the sevenTH heads of the beast.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/245468-the-8th-king-of-revelation-17/

Jesus has prophesied the re-establishment of end times Israel in 1948 who will witness the end times revelation in Matt 24.

Mat 24 :32 Now learn a parable of the afig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that ait is near, even at the bdoors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This ageneration shall not pass, till all these bthings be cfulfilled.

So we need to wait 2000 years for the re-establishment of Israel nation and another decades for the arrival of the 8th king of Revelation 17 who is actually the 1st beast of Revelation 13.

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11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The last days Jesus spoke about will not come until the antichrist come to be revealed and he is the 8th king of Revelation 17.

The arrival of this 8th king will make complete the sevenTH heads of the beast.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/245468-the-8th-king-of-revelation-17/

Jesus has prophesied the re-establishment of end times Israel in 1948 who will witness the end times revelation in Matt 24.

Mat 24 :32 Now learn a parable of the afig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that ait is near, even at the bdoors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This ageneration shall not pass, till all these bthings be cfulfilled.

So we need to wait 2000 years for the re-establishment of Israel nation and another decades for the arrival of the 8th king of Revelation 17 who is actually the 1st beast of Revelation 13.

2000 more years? :39: Now thats a stretch.  I'll go by what I can see happening now rather than calculating. We don't have another 2000 yrs. 


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I think going back to the book of beginnings what was is what will be :) Seem to me were about to hit the 7th day. I believe the restrainer needs to be taken out of the way 1st. 

 


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6 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

2000 more years? :39: Now thats a stretch.  I'll go by what I can see happening now rather than calculating. We don't have another 2000 yrs. 

2000 years since it was prophesied .


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18 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

2000 years since it was prophesied .

There is always someone who pops out at convenient time saying they have it all figured out. I am quite sure that certain events will bring him into view. Global agendas like world education systems. Peace in the Middle East. Vatican agendas like Churches being United and respected for their own beliefs. Its all about the world being its own God. and of course the great falling away and the man of sin reveled

But back to deception There is a doctrine that says there will be 7 yrs of tribulation. They twist scripture to push their own ideals. I call it feel good doctrine. They start with the book of Daniel 9:27 that  says a seven year peace will be established between Israel and its enemies. Note it did not say 7 years tribulation but peace. Then it says in the middle of this peace time The antichrist will offend Israel with the abomination of desolation and claim to be god 2nd thess 2:3,

Jesus affirmed this when said in Matt 24: 15 When you therefore see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel Then there shall be GREAT TRIBULATION. such as the world has not seen. Note Daniel said mid week. The abomination of Desolation that brings great Tribulation  happens mid week which is 3 1/2 years after the peace was signed 

It says more than one place in the New Testament  that the church would have tribulation. Not 7 yrs of tribulation This is the gag they use to trip up the church today. Tribulation has been with the church since the Day of Pentecost and will be until the abomination of desolation 3 1/2 yrs after the peace agreement. let this be made clear by going back to

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great things against the most High and shall wear out the saints and think to change times and laws. and they shall be given into his hand for a time and times and the dividing of times, which is 3 1/2 yrs the last half of the 7 yrs known as the great Tribulation. 

Their  false doctrine they say there will be the wrath of God and persecution from the antichrist the whole 7 years, but if you go to their church you are raptured before any of that. Truth is there is no seven year tribulation as if we haven't been in many tribulation since the church was born. they are just making merchandise of you. Books, movies and lots of people in there pews.

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The following is someone who is a pastor of a church. It's a 23 minute garbled explanation, that seems to me designed to confuse and make people fearful - presumably to make the flock more pliable and give more money. I won't link the original, and of course I'm naming no names. It ticks nearly every tin-foil hat conspiracy theory out there. Here's the prècis.

  • 5g causes Coronavirus
  • Coronavirus tests actually cause the disease
  • The coronavirus vaccine is designed to make us more susceptible to 5g radiation
  • It will contain rfid chips so we can be tracked
  • All currencies will be replaced by a new cryptocurrency using blockchain
  • You'll only be able to use the new currency if you can prove you've had the vaccine or the test shows you're immune.
  • It's all to usher in the New World Order
  • It's coordinated by the 1% of the 1% elite.

I'm thinking... Isaiah 8:12-13

Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.


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5 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

There is always someone who pops out at convenient time saying they have it all figured out. I am quite sure that certain events will bring him into view. Global agendas like world education systems. Peace in the Middle East. Vatican agendas like Churches being United and respected for their own beliefs. Its all about the world being its own God. and of course the great falling away and the man of sin reveled

But back to deception There is a doctrine that says there will be 7 yrs of tribulation. They twist scripture to push their own ideals. I call it feel good doctrine. They start with the book of Daniel 9:27 that  says a seven year peace will be established between Israel and its enemies. Note it did not say 7 years tribulation but peace. Then it says in the middle of this peace time The antichrist will offend Israel with the abomination of desolation and claim to be god 2nd thess 2:3,

Jesus affirmed this when said in Matt 24: 15 When you therefore see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel Then there shall be GREAT TRIBULATION. such as the world has not seen. Note Daniel said mid week. The abomination of Desolation that brings great Tribulation  happens mid week which is 3 1/2 years after the peace was signed 

It says more than one place in the New Testament  that the church would have tribulation. Not 7 yrs of tribulation This is the gag they use to trip up the church today. Tribulation has been with the church since the Day of Pentecost and will be until the abomination of desolation 3 1/2 yrs after the peace agreement. let this be made clear by going back to

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great things against the most High and shall wear out the saints and think to change times and laws. and they shall be given into his hand for a time and times and the dividing of times, which is 3 1/2 yrs the last half of the 7 yrs known as the great Tribulation. 

Their  false doctrine they say there will be the wrath of God and persecution from the antichrist the whole 7 years, but if you go to their church you are raptured before any of that. Truth is there is no seven year tribulation as if we haven't been in many tribulation since the church was born. they are just making merchandise of you. Books, movies and lots of people in there pews.

Daniel 9:27 is explained in the book of Revelation as the 1st seal opening when antichrist is launched to conquer the world with peace deal so the Tribulation begins with Peace, after 3,5 years antichrist will open his mask n demand  people worship or they shall b killed n that is called great Tribulation.

 

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Tribulation does not start with the 7year peace. That is to say the church has never been persecuted for Christ two thousand years of its existence. The 7 year peace is what it is. The abomination of desolation marks the period of Great Tribulation which will happen a mid point of the peace. This is where the antichrist will demand all to receive his mark

This is when the church will be tested until Christ comes for His bride. Read Rev 15 which takes place in heaven after the antichrist declared he was God No one has ascended to heaven before this time. These in chapter 15 suffered at the hand of the antichrist and probably martyred. No one is going to take a free ride at the seven year peace agreement Ask your self How did these people in ch 15 get there after being persecuted and there is no special honor for anyone prior to this being there with them to receive the honor of God. 


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"Be diligent yourself approved to present to God a workman not ashamed straightly cutting the word of the truth." Study.. Means be eager be zealous do your utmost.

And no where in those 3 verse does it say many will fall away. Some will like their ears being tickled.

As for the Church being tested.. the restrainer has to be removed, taken away. Gee who right now has all power over the enemy aka Satan the lawless one? The Church. The holy spirit will not be removed for we know He will still be working. Again the testing? The word makes it clear no one that is written in the lambs book “All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.”

Sorry but lol how lucky are all those that died before this huh. NONE had to be tested. As if GOD has no clue who is for Him and not? The problem is the wrath of God. The word makes this clear we will never see the wrath of God. Its coming on the whole world.. all in the world. We know there will be no place to hide. I believe the Church will be gone. To be with Him. for where He is we will be. We all know where He is.

To make sure what is said is written is very wise. To always be in His word AMEN! thanks

 

 

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