Are prophets usually popular?

[Novus]

When you stand up for the truth (contend for the faith first delivered to the saints), expect resistance. The truth in both belief and behaviour isn't always welcome to those who may find themselves being challenged they are living contrary to it. At first, I was surprised when this resistance came mostly from within the church - some of the "world" has gotten into the church. With it came slight hostility and subliminal mockery.

It's religious folk that you have to be concerned about the most-it seems. They will be nice to your face (not always) but behind your back...

The characteristics of false prophets:

Jeremiah 6:14 - They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, 'Peace, peace,' when there is no peace.

Ezekiel 13:10 - Precisely because they have misled my people, saying, 'Peace,' when there is no peace, and because, when the people build a wall, these prophets smear it with whitewash,

Matthew 24:11-13 - And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

What does this Hebrew word shalom for peace mean?

It means something positive. It is the presence of harmony (and health), which means that you are in the right relationship with other people and with your God. Healthy relationships matter. God is described again and again in the Bible as the "God of peace". There is a harmony in what God says. God never contradicts himself.

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by Novus

[Dennis1209]

On 4/16/2020 at 3:52 AM, Logostician said:

Most of the apostles of Christ were documented are beleived to be martyred.  There have been many martyrs since that time.  The truth is never easily accepted by the world.  This is why politicians are known more for popularity than truth.  Prophets spoke the truth of God in a world that preferred and continues to prefer darkness.  Jesus was and forever will be the way, the TRUTH, and the life.

A few more scriptures that apply [1 Th 2:15; Lu 11:47; Mt 23:31]. As you know, there's two more prophets to come preaching the Gospel that will be murdered. Ever wonder why God's chosen people the Jew's, and true followers of Christ have been persecuted and martyred throughout history? I think Satan and his ilk in human form know they can't kill God; so they do the next best thing, they murder God's chosen people and His children. Light exposes darkness, and the dark side loves their darkness. 

If Satan could kill all the Jew's and/or the nation of Israel [Genocide, which he has endeavored to do multiple times throughout history], Bible scripture and prophecy could not be fulfilled. Thereby, Satan is trying to produce and accomplish one thing to show the Lord's Word to be inaccurate and fallible; thus making God a liar. Misery love company; Satan wants to draw as many people with him as he can before his final fate. 

Just my thoughts...

[Sower]

On 4/16/2020 at 6:55 PM, LonerAndy said:

Prophets spoke the truth of God in a world that preferred and continues to prefer darkness.

30 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Light exposes darkness, and the dark side loves their darkness. 

John 3:19

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”

BUT,

2 Corinthians 4:3-4

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
SO THEN,
"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!     Romans 10; 14-15

Lest we forget,

He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed,
shall doubtless come again with rejoicing,
bringing his sheaves with him.
Psalms 126, 6
 

 

[Refresher]

1 hour ago, Novus said:

When you stand up for the truth (contend for the faith first delivered to the saints), expect resistance. The truth in both belief and behaviour isn't always welcome to those who may find themselves being challenged they are living contrary to it. At first, I was surprised when this resistance came mostly from within the church - some of the "world" has gotten into the church. With it came slight hostility and subliminal mockery.

It's religious folk that you have to be concerned about the most-it seems. They will be nice to your face (not always) but behind your back...

The characteristics of false prophets:

Jeremiah 6:14 - They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, 'Peace, peace,' when there is no peace.

Ezekiel 13:10 - Precisely because they have misled my people, saying, 'Peace,' when there is no peace, and because, when the people build a wall, these prophets smear it with whitewash,

Matthew 24:11-13 - And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

What does this Hebrew word shalom for peace mean?

It means something positive. It is the presence of harmony (and health), which means that you are in the right relationship with other people and with your God. Healthy relationships matter. God is described again and again in the Bible as the "God of peace". There is a harmony in what God says. God never contradicts himself.

 

Amen and amen...I like to quote)))) Healthy Relationships Matter...

[shortangel]

I'm actualy reading the book of Jermiah right now & Jermiah was not welcome when he shared God's message to the king & preists,  he was put in stocks,  imprisoned in the kings castle,  he told the truth to the people & they didn't want to hear it,  that sounds a lot like America right now we are not listening  to God and we have turned our back on him

[vic66]

2 hours ago, shortangel said:

I'm actualy reading the book of Jermiah right now & Jermiah was not welcome when he shared God's message to the king & preists,  he was put in stocks,  imprisoned in the kings castle,  he told the truth to the people & they didn't want to hear it,  that sounds a lot like America right now we are not listening  to God and we have turned our back on him

from uk but same thing applies

but we shouldn't become weary in well doing for we will reap if we faint not,

some will hear the truth

[missmuffet]

The true Prophets were back in the times of the OT. I do not take today's prophets seriously. 

[vic66]

On 4/16/2020 at 9:52 AM, Logostician said:

Joseph

Gen 37:18.  And when they (his brothers) saw him afar off, even before he came near unto them, they conspired against him to slay him.

Elijah

1 Kgs 19:10.  And he said I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts.  For the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword.  And I, even I only am left.  And they seek my life to take it away.

Elisha

2 Kgs 2:23.  And he went up thence unto Bethel.  And as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, go up thou up bald head, go up thou bald head.

Jeremiah

Jer 38:6.  Then took they Jeremiah and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hamalech that was in the court of the prison.  And they let down Jeremiah with cords.  And in the dungeon there was no water, but mire.  So Jeremiah sunk into the mire.

Daniel

Dan 6:16.  Then the king commanded, and they brought Daniel, and cast him in the den of lions...

John the Baptist

Mat 14:10.  And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.

Jesus

Jno 1:11.  He came to his own, and his own received him not.

Act 2:36.  Therefore, let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Most of the apostles of Christ were documented are beleived to be martyred.  There have been many martyrs since that time.  The truth is never easily accepted by the world.  This is why politicians are known more for popularity than truth.  Prophets spoke the truth of God in a world that preferred and continues to prefer darkness.  Jesus was and forever will be the way, the TRUTH, and the life.

Mat 5:11.  Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.  Rejoice, and be exceeding glad, for great is your reward in heaven, FOR SO PERSECUTED THEY THE PROPHETS WHICH WERE BEFORE YOU.

Jno 15:20.  Remember the word that I said unto you.  The servant is not greater than his Lord.  If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you.  If they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

 

 

 

Mark 12:1-12kjv(Poor treatment of the Lords servants confirmed in a parable by Christ)this was by the Jews

1And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country. 2And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard. 3And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty. 4And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled. 5And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some. 6Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son. 7But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours. 8And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard. 9What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.

10And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

11This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

12And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way.

[vic66]

18 hours ago, Cornelius10 said:

Which of coarse brings to Mind the Parable of the Tenants.

Mat 21:33  Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Mat 21:34  And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
Mat 21:35  And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Mat 21:36  Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
Mat 21:37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
Mat 21:38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
Mat 21:39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Mat 21:40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
Mat 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

I think they must be the same parable written by mark and matthew