Fear - Witnessing

[Sower]

57 minutes ago, Daily verse and quote said:

You make an excellent point! Your observation that most non-believers can only hear the words of Scripture - and make observations about the person who is addressing them. And never getting to the real "meat" of what is being said.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4

 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

[frienduff thaylorde]

yall . take a look at these numbers .
Spain . 185,309
Italy . 168,941
Germany . 138,230
France . 108,847
those are the top four countries combined with a total count combined of 601,329
spain is number two .
italy is number three
Germany is number four
and france is number five . SO WHO IS NUMBER ONE
AMERICA is . now their total combinded numbers in all four of those countries is 601, 329 AMERICA ALONE is 675,243 WE BEAT ALL FOUR COMBINDED .
NOW enough with lighting towers up pink for baby killing . NEW YORK alone has over two hundred and twenty THOUSAND cases . more than any other country .
ENOUGH with the rainbows and the pink towers . ONLY , i aint seeing repentance , and gov cumou in new york , KEEPS MOCKING GOD .

[vic66]

2 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

yall . take a look at these numbers .
Spain . 185,309
Italy . 168,941
Germany . 138,230
France . 108,847
those are the top four countries combined with a total count combined of 601,329
spain is number two .
italy is number three
Germany is number four
and france is number five . SO WHO IS NUMBER ONE
AMERICA is . now their total combinded numbers in all four of those countries is 601, 329 AMERICA ALONE is 675,243 WE BEAT ALL FOUR COMBINDED .
NOW enough with lighting towers up pink for baby killing . NEW YORK alone has over two hundred and twenty THOUSAND cases . more than any other country .
ENOUGH with the rainbows and the pink towers . ONLY , i aint seeing repentance , and gov cumou in new york , KEEPS MOCKING GOD .

Amen but God knows how to deal with the nations 

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God.

Let's keep calling for national and individual  repentance, maybe just maybe some people or person might listen. They listened in the time of Jonah3, 1Kings18 Elijah helped turned the heart of the people back to God after calling down fire upon the altar.

Peter preached the gospel in jerusalem and many who called for Christ crucification got saved acts2

So with help from the Lord all things are possible some might get pricked in heart and see the ERRORS of their ways before it's to late. 

godly sorrow workth repentance

But the sorrow of the workth death.

Edited April 17, 2020 by vic66

[JohnD]

8 hours ago, Daily verse and quote said:

You make an excellent point! Your observation that most non-believers can only hear the words of Scripture - and make observations about the person who is addressing them. And never getting to the real "meat" of what is being said.

The passage goes even further to indicate and indict humanism = satanism.

Not just in unbelievers. Believers also have a satanic human nature to contend with.

Matthew 16:23 is a hard verse for self esteem builders / sinless Christian teachers to accept.

At best we are credited with the righteousness of Christ imputed to our account for faith in him. 

That's what grace is all about and who receives this grace.

Isaiah 64:6 (AV)
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Look up "filthy rags" in the Hebrew. ← the most unclean thing in the ancient Middle East.

The basis of human worth is not our wits, our abilities, or dominance over creation, but the value God places on us. ← to every man, woman, and child.

God doesn't want us going around with inflated egos in the name of self esteem... but with humility before him!

Micah 6:8 (AV)
8 He hath shewed thee, O man,

what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee,

but to do justly, and to love mercy,

and to walk humbly with thy God?

[JohnD]

9 hours ago, Daily verse and quote said:

I agree with that statement. But I believe it deserves an explanation of the term "witness". Is it walking around like a Billy Graham quoting the bible at all times, or is it simply living a life approving to God which other people can see, and maybe say to themselves: "I want to be like that." Or is it a combination of the two?"

My witness is to be Jesus people all the time. Unafraid of giving him credit. Ready to explain what I am led by the Spirit to explain about... anything, I suppose. It can be about the Bible, salvation, Jesus, God, the globalists, general philosophy, family, marriage, work, hobbies, script writing, I often use humor to make people smile or laugh. I am unashamed of crying. 

I don't hide who I am or my salty vocabulary (I use discretion in places like this and with polite company) but I'm an old sailor with the lanbuage of the Apostle Peter the fisherman. I can explain where nearly all cuss words came from (some of them were even created to avoid certain words used in the Bible - fact).

My point: many unbelievers see Christians who go about life sanctimoniously to attempt to act worthy (and I understand this is how some folks manage their own demons / temptations / etc.) but it comes across as hypocritical and phony to the world. We are to concern ourselves with God first foremost. I get that. But not exclusively. We are here after all to win souls are we not?

I found, for example, not judging people and instead seeking how to help them opens far more doors for the Gospel.

We tend to think of people and situations in the Bible through a stained glass mentality. But they had the same faults we all do. And to go about acting like pharisees (self righteous /above it all) I am convinced even makes the Lord sick to his stomach. Read how he contended with them face to face or taught his disciples about them and not to be like them.    Yet look how many try to act like them to this very day.

I've also learned not to allow folks to steer conversations about the Gospel down rabbit hole arguments. "God sends people to hell..." and the like. I reiterate people are born bound for hell. Everything God has done since Adam and Eve fell has been to try to stop people from going there. 

That sort of thing.

There are evangelists who are good at knocking door-to-door... or at grabbing people by the necktie to witness to them.

I never was.

I tried. But it pushed people away.

Just being me, a beggar whose learned where to find bread is the most effective way.

[JohnD]

I don't mean to sound critical, but those who are good at evangelism (especially those notorious for it)

must take extreme care not to add to the Gospel. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Walking aisles, praying certain prayers, water baptism, inviting Jesus into your heart, making Jesus Lord of your life...

all these well intention things are not what is required of us. If they were they would be in John 3:16-18 / Ephesians 2:8-10 /

John 16:27 and so on. 

But evangelism is our very purpose for remaining on this Earth after we are saved. And whatever individual specialty we are gifted with 

by God in support of this purpose is our calling / ministry as priests of God (all Christians are priests of God, btw).

[frienduff thaylorde]

7 hours ago, vic66 said:

Amen but God knows how to deal with the nations 

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God.

Let's keep calling for national and individual  repentance, maybe just maybe some people or person might listen. They listened in the time of Jonah3, 1Kings18 Elijah helped turned the heart of the people back to God after calling down fire upon the altar.

Peter preached the gospel in jerusalem and many who called for Christ crucification got saved acts2

So with help from the Lord all things are possible some might get pricked in heart and see the ERRORS of their ways before it's to late. 

godly sorrow workth repentance

But the sorrow of the workth death.

absolutely correct my friend .  

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, JohnD said:

I don't mean to sound critical, but those who are good at evangelism (especially those notorious for it)

must take extreme care not to add to the Gospel. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Walking aisles, praying certain prayers, water baptism, inviting Jesus into your heart, making Jesus Lord of your life...

all these well intention things are not what is required of us. If they were they would be in John 3:16-18 / Ephesians 2:8-10 /

John 16:27 and so on. 

But evangelism is our very purpose for remaining on this Earth after we are saved. And whatever individual specialty we are gifted with 

by God in support of this purpose is our calling / ministry as priests of God (all Christians are priests of God, btw).

And thier preaching of an all inclusive gosple ,   IS adding to it and its highly dangerous .    They profess a muslim is saved even if they confess NOT JESUS by mouth so long as they do good to their neighbor .

ITS sick and its death .     the gosple is ,  we must CONFESS HIM with our mouth and beleive from the heart that GOD has raised HIM from the dead and ye shall be saved .

for with the heart man beleives unto righteousness , and confession by the mouth UNTO SALVATION .       that is clear and cut TRUTH .    

[Daily verse and quote]

2 hours ago, JohnD said:

My witness is to be Jesus people all the time. Unafraid of giving him credit. Ready to explain what I am led by the Spirit to explain about... anything, I suppose. It can be about the Bible, salvation, Jesus, God, the globalists, general philosophy, family, marriage, work, hobbies, script writing, I often use humor to make people smile or laugh. I am unashamed of crying. 

I don't hide who I am or my salty vocabulary (I use discretion in places like this and with polite company) but I'm an old sailor with the lanbuage of the Apostle Peter the fisherman. I can explain where nearly all cuss words came from (some of them were even created to avoid certain words used in the Bible - fact).

My point: many unbelievers see Christians who go about life sanctimoniously to attempt to act worthy (and I understand this is how some folks manage their own demons / temptations / etc.) but it comes across as hypocritical and phony to the world. We are to concern ourselves with God first foremost. I get that. But not exclusively. We are here after all to win souls are we not?

I found, for example, not judging people and instead seeking how to help them opens far more doors for the Gospel.

We tend to think of people and situations in the Bible through a stained glass mentality. But they had the same faults we all do. And to go about acting like pharisees (self righteous /above it all) I am convinced even makes the Lord sick to his stomach. Read how he contended with them face to face or taught his disciples about them and not to be like them.    Yet look how many try to act like them to this very day.

Thank you for your eloquent, but easy to understand, esp

I've also learned not to allow folks to steer conversations about the Gospel down rabbit hole arguments. "God sends people to hell..." and the like. I reiterate people are born bound for hell. Everything God has done since Adam and Eve fell has been to try to stop people from going there. 

That sort of thing.

There are evangelists who are good at knocking door-to-door... or at grabbing people by the necktie to witness to them.

I never was.

I tried. But it pushed people away.

Just being me, a beggar whose learned where to find bread is the most effective way.

 

[Daily verse and quote]

Thank your your eloquent - yet very understandable - explanation of your approach to this subject.