R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, other one said: even if they have a close walk with the Lord but just disagree with you? Its not because they disagree with me but because they declare rapture as a lie n try to mislead people, if they cannot understand it they shud remain silent n ask God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, other one said: even if they have a close walk with the Lord but just disagree with you? How do u believe they hv a close walk with God, pharisees also claim it. I, never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, other one said: even if they have a close walk with the Lord but just disagree with you? Its the same thing with those who refuse the baptism of Holy Spirit which are many, n still think they hv Holy Spirit. Just because they don't believe in Holy Spirit baptism doesnt make Holy Spirit stop baptizing people like happened to the early church of apostles. However their refusal show they r the foolish virgins Jesus speaks about Edited April 20, 2020 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 1:41 PM, missmuffet said: Because a true believer does not believe in the rapture of the Church before the tribulation does not mean they will be left behind. Thats right, unless they declare rapture is a lie to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) On 4/18/2020 at 12:54 PM, ForHisGlory37 said: Proverbs 10:30 King James Version (KJV) 30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. Why do u choose to stay on earth if the wise virgins r taken to the feast of the Lamb in heaven The abv OT verses were written be4 people rcvd jesus as the bride groom who will gather the bride as the great multitude in revelation Edited April 20, 2020 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) On 4/17/2020 at 7:55 PM, Last Daze said: The whole point of staying awake and alert is to not succumb to the lies and deception of this world. We are not to become entangled in the things of this world. You can always think about lies and deception of this world but the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. Edited April 20, 2020 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 20, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,250 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,981 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 hours ago, R. Hartono said: How do u believe they hv a close walk with God, pharisees also claim it. I, never. ****shakes head and walks away from conversation*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted April 21, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,640 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,372 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 1:14 AM, NonProfitProphet said: Perhaps you didn’t see my question, as I’m sure you wouldn’t just ignore a brother-in-Christ. In Revelation 3:10, the phrase keep you from bears no resemblance to the Greek text. The English word “keep” is not a translation of the Greek word tereo. The actual meaning of that word is “to attend to/take care of” or “to guard (by keeping an eye upon).” The root word means “to be a spectator/to watch.” The English word “from” is not a good translation either. It is the Greek word, ek. John uses it in Revelation 16:21: “...men blasphemed God because of the plague of hail...” It is best translated in the context of 3:10 as “because of.” Its consistent with John’s writing style. Consider Psalm 91, I believe this details this concept of “guarding you because” of a plague, or activities of God’s wrath: 7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. 8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. 9 If you say, “The LORD is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, 10 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; All I ask is that you consider the original language of scripture, and understand the situation depicted in Psalm 91. They both say the same thing. Truth. I've said the same many times. Fear keeps people from the truth. They just cannot look into that terrible darkness of reality with courage born of faith in God and belief in Jesus Christ. They do not trust there will be a guard to watch over us in the midst of evil times. They confuse the body with the soul, the temporal with the eternal, comfort with immortality and riches with righteousness. I don't think we are waiting for the rebellion to occur, we're living in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Diaste said: Truth. I've said the same many times. Fear keeps people from the truth. They just cannot look into that terrible darkness of reality with courage born of faith in God and belief in Jesus Christ. They do not trust there will be a guard to watch over us in the midst of evil times. They confuse the body with the soul, the temporal with the eternal, comfort with immortality and riches with righteousness. I don't think we are waiting for the rebellion to occur, we're living in it. The wise virgins are taken alive, remember that someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Posted April 23, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,364 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 1:32 AM, R. Hartono said: The wise virgins are taken alive, remember that someday. Even the wise virgins got it wrong about the timing of His coming. It happened -NOT -when they expected it. Only at the darkest hour did He come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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