BIG, BIG NEWS: RESURRECTION AND RAPTURE ON MARCH 14, 2023?

[iamlamad]

28 minutes ago, The Light said:

The Church age is over before the seals are opened. The 70th week of Daniel is over at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. When Jesus is saying the end is not yet, He is talking to the Jews, not the Church. How is it that you don't understand that the 70th week of Daniel is about the Jews? God says it's about the Jews in the book of Daniel and yet somehow most are blind to this fact. Puzzling and yet amazing. Same way the Jews can't see Jesus is the Messiah. It's all right there in front of them in their own scriptures and yet they can't see. Amazing.

What is amazing is your take on these scriptures. 

He is talking to the Jews: We agree. 

How is it that you don't understand that the 70th week of Daniel is about the Jews?   I have said this many times.

God says it's about the Jews in the book of Daniel and yet somehow most are blind to this fact.

These are all begining to sound like Strawmen. I agree with you here.  Perhaps also a red herring.
 

What does these facts have to do with WHERE the 70th week is in Revelation? 

Answer: NOTHING. 

[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, The Light said:

Yes, you have this part right: the "trib', Jacob's trouble, the 70th week, all speak of the same 7 years of time. Good. We at last find something we can agree on. The question is though, WHERE is this time in Revelation? I have told you countless times, it is MARKED (Jesus' word, not mine) with the 7's: seventh seal to the 7th vial. Any other theory will certainly be proven wrong. 

The time of Jacobs trouble ends with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. I'm sorry but you must have misheard or you were listening to the wrong person regarding the 7's, as what you say does not line up with scripture.

No, not ever! It is the CHURCH AGE that ends with Jesus coming JUST BEFORE the 6th seal. That will be His RAPTURE coming. 
Until or unless you discover that the seals (1 through 5) are CHURCH AGE, you will be mistaken on every post about this subject. 

SEal 1: THE GOSPEL

seals 2-4: the devil's attempts to stop the advance of the gospel (He causes many martyrs)

Seal 5: martyrs of the church age

...................Jesus comes to Rapture of the church HERE

Seal 6: Start of God's wrath on earth. 

what you say does not line up with scripture. WRONG! The 70th week as marked by the 7's does not line up with your THEORIES on scripture.  It seems you really don't know where much of anything is in Revelation.  The problem is, you THINK you do, so you will not learn the truth until you arrive where we will know as we are now known. 

Just so you know, I was listening to JESUS and He is not the "wrong person." 

Maybe you should ask Him about these things.

[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, vic66 said:

 For me he that let must mean the Holy Spirit he is the only one powerful enough to restrain the power of darkness in this world.

Exactly! Good job!

[The Light]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

No, this is just imagination running wild. It is what people expect from your posts. 

Sorry, the 7th King was not around in 32 AD. Neither was the 7th king anyone righteous. 

The funniest thing is that you have such an imagination when it comes to the scriptures, but your copycat responses have no imagination.

Please show me the scripture that shows that the rider on the white horse is righteous. I'm not talking about what you imagine or what some commentator thinks, I'm talking about the scripture. That rider on the white horse is the false Christ. See Matthew 24. That rider wears the stephanos crown that he is GIVEN. That rider carries a bow, as does Apollo, who is Horus. The pyramid on the back of the one dollar bill has an eye above the pyramid. That represents Horus, Apollo, Tammuz the false Christ. That is who the world is waiting for. The rider on the white horse is the false Christ that goes forth conquering and to conquer. And by peace he will destroy many.

As far as the 7th king not being around in 32 AD, you are correct that he was not. Hopefully you won't be around to see him when those seals are opened.

[The Light]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

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No, not ever! It is the CHURCH AGE that ends with Jesus coming JUST BEFORE the 6th seal.

Jesus comes after the 6th seal. Why don't you show what scripture says he comes before the 6th seal. While you are poking around looking for something that isn't there you might check what happens after the 6th seal is opened.

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That will be His RAPTURE coming. 

Strange that this coming you are talking about is not in scripture. I know what you're thinking - Well surely it has to be there because all these other scriptures that I have forced into the wrong timeline, prove it has to be there. Even though John and Jesus don't mention it, you feel free to just plug it in wherever you want. LOL and then you want to make a comment about Rev 4:1. Amazing.

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Until or unless you discover that the seals (1 through 5) are CHURCH AGE, you will be mistaken on every post about this subject.

What you are saying does not agree with scripture, just like you saying the Jesus comes at the 5th seal. Totally unscriptural. Until you learn that the 70th week of Daniel is about the Jews and not the Church, you will be mistaken on everything. At least you are right about there being a pretrib rapture. Good Job.

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SEal 1: THE GOSPEL

Seal 1: False Christ. See Matthew 24

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seals 2-4: the devil's attempts to stop the advance of the gospel (He causes many martyrs)

Seals 2-4: Wars and rumors of wars, nations rising against nations and kingdoms against kingdoms. famines, pestilences See Matthew 24
 

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Seal 5: martyrs of the church age

...................Jesus comes to Rapture of the church HERE

 

Seal 5: The Great Tribulation - The woman flees to the wilderness. The beast can't get to her and goes after the remnant of her seed. That would be the 12 tribes that are across the earth.

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Seal 6: Start of God's wrath on earth. 

Seal 6: The cosmic signs appear immediately after the tribulation of the those days. Jesus returns for the gathering from heaven and earth. He sends His angels and the world is trying to hide there face from Him as they know wrath is getting to begin. The 70th week of Daniel ends.

Seal 7: Wrath begins with the 1st trumpet and ends with the 7th trumpet. Wrath is 1260 days long.

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what you say does not line up with scripture. WRONG! The 70th week as marked by the 7's does not line up with your THEORIES on scripture.  It seems you really don't know where much of anything is in Revelation.  The problem is, you THINK you do, so you will not learn the truth until you arrive where we will know as we are now known. 

Have you noticed none of what you say agrees with scripture? Come on, you imagine a coming of Jesus at the end of the 5th seal when there is no evidence of such a coming. And yet at the 6th seal, when He comes, it goes over your head. Just try putting things where God says they go, and quit imagining things.

 

 

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[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

18 hours ago, vic66 said:

 For me he that let must mean the Holy Spirit he is the only one powerful enough to restrain the power of darkness in this world.

vic66, I believe that you are correct--the Holy Spirit in the Church restrains the mystery of lawlessness, but will be taken out of the way at the rapture. Even Gn 6 has something to say about it:

 ³ Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 

Just as the Spirit strove with demons (1 Pt 3.18-20) and man for 120 years before Noah's 600th year, He is striving now with Satan and the unbound demons and man for 120 years before the 6000th year, 2030.

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On 5/7/2020 at 1:00 AM, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

IV - From Exodus to king Saul ------------------- 396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem --------------508 years

Oseas, your first figure above seems to be right, if that is the start of Saul's reign. Acts 13.21 says that he reigned for 40 years, just like David and Solomon. If the Exodus was in 1446 BC, as I believe, then Saul started to reign in 1050 BC. 1050 BC to 586 BC is 464 years. You have 508 years. This is where your mistake is.

[iamlamad]

9 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

The 7th trumpet sounds through Michael the archangel: Rev. 11:v.15 - The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of OUR Lord, and of His Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.  Here goes some of the consequences due the sound of the 7th trumpet:  Rev.11:v.18; 1Thes.4:v. 16; Daniel 12:v.1-3; Rev. 12:v.7&11
1 - Rev.11:v.18 - 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.: 

2 - 1Thes.4:v.16 - the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (Michael), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: - there will be resurrection - 

3 - Daniel 12:v.1-3 -  1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.  2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 -  Revelation 12:v.7&11 - 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his messengers fought against the DRAGON; and the DRAGON fought and his messengers. 11 And they -MICHAEL and the messengers which are with him - overcame the DRAGON by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
And so on ...
 

By your words I tend to believe the LITERAL fulfilment as it is written: To whosoever has not, from him shall be taken even that which he seems to have, then ...  Revelation 10:v.7 - 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the secret of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
 

The insignificance of your own words and myths, your own confession shows that you have not the spirit of revelation given by God, but the spirit of guessings.
Acts 16:v.16-18
16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of guessing met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Galatians 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

 

What do you do? Just post random scriptures so you look important? If any here write myths, it is FAR more likely to be you.

[iamlamad]

18 hours ago, The Light said:

The Light said;

Try as you might, but you are not going for find the word "coming" at the 6th seal. 
You CAN find it in 1 thes. 4. 

[iamlamad]

18 hours ago, The Light said:

The funniest thing is that you have such an imagination when it comes to the scriptures, but your copycat responses have no imagination.

Please show me the scripture that shows that the rider on the white horse is righteous. I'm not talking about what you imagine or what some commentator thinks, I'm talking about the scripture. That rider on the white horse is the false Christ. See Matthew 24. That rider wears the stephanos crown that he is GIVEN. That rider carries a bow, as does Apollo, who is Horus. The pyramid on the back of the one dollar bill has an eye above the pyramid. That represents Horus, Apollo, Tammuz the false Christ. That is who the world is waiting for. The rider on the white horse is the false Christ that goes forth conquering and to conquer. And by peace he will destroy many.

As far as the 7th king not being around in 32 AD, you are correct that he was not. Hopefully you won't be around to see him when those seals are opened.

Right! God had John use the color white 17 times in Revelation, 16 times to represent righteousness, and once to represent evil. Some people need to get a clue. God does not do that. God is CONSISTENT. The white horse is to represent RIGHTEOUS conquering or spiritual warfare. 

Your theory is 2000 years off and simply WRONG.