Mary Was Just A Woman

[Ovedya]

I noticed that no remarks have been made about my last post to this thread, especially with regard to the pictures. Doesn't it bother anyone that this level of so-called "devotion" is given to Mary?

[Guest Zayit]

Jesus refused to let His mother, his first and most perfect disciple,

Ane the first shall be last and the last shall be first.............

[Guest Zayit]

It is funny that site that you linked to has links off it, one which says "TRUTH" under a picture of a head down dead Jesus, That is certainly not the Truth, that is what HaSatan wants propituated because he hates the fact that he has been defeated and Yeshau/ Jesus is ALIVE FOREVERMORE!!!!!!

[Guest Zayit]

Reading some more one of Many pages devoted to Marianology I came across this official church proclomation by PJPII -church proclaims Mary, mother of g0d (edit)

Following the example of the ancient Christians of Egypt, let the faithful entrust themselves to her who, being the Mother of God, can obtain from her divine Son the grace of deliverance from evil and of eternal salvation.

Just how she can do it is not explained, but my question to you is, why is it needed, or why does she have to?

Edited July 22, 2005 by Dr. Luke

[other one]

It is funny that site that you linked to has links off it, one which says "TRUTH" under a picture of a head down dead Jesus, That is certainly not the Truth, that is what HaSatan wants propituated because he hates the fact that he has been defeated and Yeshau/ Jesus is ALIVE FOREVERMORE!!!!!!

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I had the same thoughts when I went to the site. That picture and the Pope's bent cross staff pushes my buttons....

[Ovedya]

I noticed that no remarks have been made about my last post to this thread, especially with regard to the pictures.  Doesn't it bother anyone that this level of so-called "devotion" is given to Mary?

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BTW: Here it is: http://www.worthyboards.com/forums/index.p...ndpost&p=403325

[Guest LadyC]

the prayers i posted were copied directly from a catholic website page that provided a list of "common catholic prayers". there was no preamble. whether or not one should have been included, it does not change the prayers themselves, which clearly are in opposition to scripture.

i appreciate the scripture references. it appears that i'm being accused of casting the first stone and passing judgement. i'm not judging anybody here, i'm judging a doctrine which teaches unbiblical doctrine according to the righteousness of God's own word. no casting stones about it. furthermore, until that last two posts, everything i've posted has been done with gentleness and love. those here who prescribe to the RCC doctrine have not responded to gentleness and love as displayed here earlier by me, and throughout the thread by numerous other people.

i find it rather interesting that catholics frequently accuse non-catholic christians of being unable to recieve the full truth, or however it was worded earlier. the bottom line is, God's word is the only source of truth, and yet the RCC version of "truth" is based on so many other writings other than the Bible. enlightenment doesn't come from man-made doctrine, enlightenment comes only through the Holy Spirit in accordance with scripture alone. nothing added, nothing taken away. in fact, scripture warns strongly against adding to the word of God. with that warning in mind, i wouldn't dare base my understanding of God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit upon anything that is not straight from the Bible itself.

OVEYDA... i'll comment on those pictures.... i find them every bit as disturbing as those prayers i posted earlier. all depict an ungodly devotion to mary.

one last thing, if i may. i've seen a lot of discussion here regarding the saints, also. according to scripture, all we who believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, all we who are born again, are saints. we don't have to wait for five years after our death to reach sainthood. it is appropriate to ask the saints to join with us in prayer, given that the saints, according to God, include those of us who are posting in this thread.

now, assissi and christina... i totally disagree with you and others regarding mary. however, i apologize for having let my frustration get the better of me and coming across as rude. my 17 year old is in a high risk pregnancy and on pelvic rest, and was experiencing extreme pain yesterday, and her doctor could not fit her in to his schedule. it had me very edgy, to say the least. we ended up spending more than six hours in the ER later yesterday evening. please accept my apology for the manner in which i expressed myself.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Christine,

We do not allow the links to Catholic Apologetics becasue it doesn't line up with our Statement of Faith as read above. No fear in Christ Jesus.

If people wish to investigate that stuff? They know how to punch up Google. We do not allow the links from this site to places where Doctrines cannot be refuted directly from the Word of God. We are accountable for the flock.

It's sad tho, cuz no one here will ever come to know the full Truth that Jesus Christ teaches in the Gospels.

Just who makes clear the Gospels for you?

No more Apologetics links please.

P.S. Despite the fact that you didn't like the way that Lady C asked? You didn't answer the question? Are those prayers and devotions prayed to Mary herself?

Peace,

Dave

[EricH]

Grace to you,

Christine,

We do not allow the links to Catholic Apologetics becasue it doesn't line up with our Statement of Faith as read above. No fear in Christ Jesus.

If people wish to investigate that stuff? They know how to punch up Google. We do not allow the links from this site to places where Doctrines cannot be refuted directly from the Word of God. We are accountable for the flock.

It's sad tho, cuz no one here will ever come to know the full Truth that Jesus Christ teaches in the Gospels.

Just who makes clear the Gospels for you?

No more Apologetics links please.

P.S. Despite the fact that you didn't like the way that Lady C asked? You didn't answer the question? Are those prayers and devotions prayed to Mary herself?

Peace,

Dave

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I have watched FR John Corapi in EWTN and he repeatedly makes references to us asking our "mother" to help us with issues of sin and intercession. There is a mixed message coming out of the Catholic faith. They want to say they are not praying to mary, but then statements are made that lead me to believe otherwise

[Guest ChristinaJMJ]

Just who makes clear the Gospels for you? 

P.S. Despite the fact that you didn't like the way that Lady C asked? You didn't answer the question? Are those prayers and devotions prayed to Mary herself?

Peace,

Dave

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