Update On My Mother Hearing Angels

[Daniel Marsh]

On 5/22/2020 at 9:37 AM, LadyKay said:

That was what she was being treated for at first. They think there is something else going on. 

praying for everyone involved.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

On 5/24/2020 at 6:11 PM, Sally555 said:

I find much against the Mormons, However I find much for them.

They have food banks, Housing and Job Programs.  They even have advanced Schooling available to some.

You know if you are a Mormon, and you go to whatever they call a priest, and say you need a job.  You know what you get, a job.  It might take 3 to 7 days, but they will find you a Job

Many people in and out of religions do good things --- that does not make them genuine believers in the real Jesus.  Their false another Jesus puts them outside Historical Christianity.

Galatians 1:6-9 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

6 A short time ago God chose you to follow him. He chose you through his grace that came through Christ. But now I am amazed that you are already turning away and believing something different from the Good News we told you. 7 There is no other message that is the Good News, but some people are confusing you. They want to change the Good News about Christ. 8 We told you the true Good News message. So anyone who tells you a different message should be condemned—even if it’s one of us or even an angel from heaven! 9 I said this before. Now I say it again: You have already accepted the Good News. Anyone who tells you another way to be saved should be condemned!

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
12 And I will continue doing what I am doing now, because I want to stop those people from having a reason to boast. They would like to say that the work they boast about is the same as ours. 13 They are false apostles, lying workers. They only pretend to be apostles of Christ. 14 That does not surprise us, because even Satan changes himself to look like an angel of light. 15 So it does not surprise us if Satan’s servants make themselves look like servants who work for what is right. But in the end those people will get the punishment they deserve.

Matthew 7:21-22 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’

 

[Daniel Marsh]

On 5/22/2020 at 7:24 AM, Neighbor said:

Angels speak, least the one that spoke to me,- had a bit of a Vermont dialect. ps- I have no infection.

pps - very glad an illnes has been  noted and is being treated for LadyKay's mother. May God heal for rapidly.

Not everyone who has a vision starts a false religion friend.    

Islam Dismantled Kindle Edition
by Sujit Das  (Author), Ali Sina (Preface) 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00785Z5Z0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

"The Prophet of Islam is one of the several famous religious figures who allegedly suffered from epilepsy. Early Greek chronicler Theophanes was one of the first to mention that the revelations of The Prophet were episodes of epilepsy, sparking a debate that has continued to date. This argument, for the most part, was confined to historic literary writings only until it was quoted by some eminent neurologists of recent times. They suggested probable diagnosis of temporal lobe epilepsy, adding credibility to the historical claims."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525505019310844

"This paper reviews the spells of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam. During these spells, Muhammad sensed the approach of a figure whom he thought to be the Angel Gabriel. The inspirational message transmitted to Muhammad during these spells helped form the religion of Islam. This is a review of the historical details of these spells and an attempt to reach a medical diagnosis. Although an unequivocal decision is not possible from existing knowledge, psychomotor or complex partial seizures of temporal lobe epilepsy would be the most tenable diagnosis. An examination of Western civilization's views of Muhammad's spells reveals historical and modern misconceptions about epilepsy"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/793843/

https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/badawi/epilepsy1.html
https://answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/badawi/epilepsy2.html
https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/badawi/epilepsy3.html
https://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Badawi/Radio/RA200J5.htm
https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/badawi.html
https://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch11_the_dark_nature.htm

There is reports about Mary Baker Eddy too:

https://mkhuggins.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/mary-baker-eddy-a-case-history/

Google Mary Baker Eddy  Epileptic

[Daniel Marsh]

A Major problem of Joseph Smith's first Vision is multiple editions that contradicts at various details.

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no122.htm#FirstVisionAccounts

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no122.htm#EvolvingFirstVisionStory

http://www.utlm.org/topicalindexc.htm#Mental Illness

[Daniel Marsh]

"Epistemology is the branch of philosophy dealing with the nature and scope of knowledge. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has no uniform position on the classical issues of epistemology, such as the relationship of the sources of knowledge, theories of truth, and modes of verification, but the superiority of knowing by revelation from God is commonly cited from the scriptures."

https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Epistemology

 

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V34N0304_57.pdf

[BibleStudent100]

On 5/21/2020 at 12:31 PM, LadyKay said:

I made a post about my mom saying she was hearing angels talk to her. As it turns out, it was discovered that she has some kind of infection that is causing her to have hallucinations. She is in the hospital  and they are trying to find out  what is going on and what is causing the infection

Thank you Lady Kay for the update.  As was discussed in the earlier posts, when humans are under physical stress, caused by trauma, infection or any other outside force, the still-active brain, even if one is near death, recalls and forms images under the stresses of the near-death experience. These impressions are then interpreted by some patients as glimpses of life after death.  We continue to marvel how powerful the brain still is and how believable the hallucinations can be.

[Daniel Marsh]

6 hours ago, BibleStudent100 said:

Thank you Lady Kay for the update.  As was discussed in the earlier posts, when humans are under physical stress, caused by trauma, infection or any other outside force, the still-active brain, even if one is near death, recalls and forms images under the stresses of the near-death experience. These impressions are then interpreted by some patients as glimpses of life after death.  We continue to marvel how powerful the brain still is and how believable the hallucinations can be.

Is your picture or icon the 2013 model?

[leah777]

How is you mama @LadyKay?

[Ranger Jim]

My sister in law was in a hospital with several serious symptoms that confounded the staff there. They were considering she might be "sceptic", a serious infection. My wife finally got through a message for someone to call her since her sister couldn't engage in a sensible conversation on the phone. The only thing her sister seemed to receive was to welcome angels to be dispatched by Jesus to come alongside to comfort her and speak into the ears of her caregivers some wisdom. 

My wife received a call from a nurse the next day. No progress had been made. Before ending the call, she had a thought.  She asked the nurse whether her sister was being given a specific prescribed medicine for a condition.  It wasn't on her med list!  The nurse thanked her profusely.  The very next day her Baptist sister called to say she had two angels all night singing, holding her hands.  She was moved out of ICR and made that call when moved to a room. She was released with a few more temporary prescriptions. 

Her nice evangelical message has remained that her sister called for God to send angels to rescue her, and they came singing!  She is now open to phone discussions of Bible truths both of those folks were deprived of in their youth. 

We would say it might be important to emphasize, acknowledge at least, that your mother has indeed been hearing angels in the midst of sickness, perhaps because someone is praying the right prayers, and an important ear will hear the song.

Edited May 29, 2020 by Ranger Jim

[LadyKay]

1 hour ago, leah777 said:

How is you mama @LadyKay?

They did a Lumbar test (  spinal tap) today. They are testing for meningitis as well as other things. I talked to the nurse and she said her white blood cell count has gone down. So that shows that she is fighting off the infection. Whatever the infection is. That is what they are trying to find out. Will get the test back in a day or 2 they said. This whole thing came like right out the blue.  Was with her on Mother's Day and everything was fine and normal. We had pizza. Two days later this whole thing started. Just like that. 

Edited May 29, 2020 by LadyKay