BibleReader Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 98 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 32 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/25/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) For example, let's say someone insists that "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17,18) is the U.S.A., but it ends up being the case that it isn't and as world events unfold the person later realizes that. What is that person's responsibility before God for having spread falsehood? Is it considered a lie to perpetuate something you believe that is true but really isn't? If not, what sin does it fall under? How serious is it? Any Bible examples? Edited June 26, 2020 by BibleReader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,222 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 was what jonah did a lie in what he told nineveh.... what he told them didn't happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, other one said: was what jonah did a lie in what he told nineveh.... what he told them didn't happen. It was a warning to repent n they repented. Wud God still destroy them all then n if thats so its no use for us to repent as God prophesied hell for the unGodly. ??? Edited June 26, 2020 by R. Hartono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, BibleReader said: For example, let's say someone insists that "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17,18) is the U.S.A., but it ends up being the case that it isn't and as world events unfold the person later realizes that. What is that person's responsibility before God for having spread falsehood? There are many good christians in America n also innocent honest citizens, its not right to call America is the babylon, may be the satanic global elite Freemasons or the deep state which has perpetrated government with their reptilian agenda of New World Order, established UN headquarter in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchesofHim Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 211 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,463 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/23/1966 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) Misunderstanding effects everyone at some time. Shalom. Luke 9:[38] And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child. [39] And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him. [40] And I besought thy disciples to cast him out; and they could not. [41] And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither. [42] And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. [43] And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples, Edited June 26, 2020 by branchesofHim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,222 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 hours ago, R. Hartono said: It was a warning to repent n they repented. Wud God still destroy them all then n if thats so its no use for us to repent as God prophesied hell for the unGodly. ??? that wasn't a warning, was a simple declaration that God is going to destroy them. that is what God told him to say. he said it and he didn't do it.... Joanah knew they would repent and God wouldn't do it and it put Jonah in a bad situation as they stoned false prophets in those days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, other one said: that wasn't a warning, was a simple declaration that God is going to destroy them. that is what God told him to say. he said it and he didn't do it.... Joanah knew they would repent and God wouldn't do it and it put Jonah in a bad situation as they stoned false prophets in those days Are u as hard as a Byson ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.71 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 11 hours ago, BibleReader said: For example, let's say someone insists that "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17,18) is the U.S.A., but it ends up being the case that it isn't and as world events unfold the person later realizes that. What is that person's responsibility before God for having spread falsehood? Is it considered a lie to perpetuate something you believe that is true but really isn't? If not, what sin does it fall under? How serious is it? Any Bible examples? You need to clarify what you are talking about. Any fool can make statements about the politics or social situation and be accuracy or inaccurate in what they think will happen. Equally that same fool can make statements about what is happening in the church or about spiritual events again with a degree of accuracy and inaccuracy. Both the above can be ignored, prayed for that theydevelop some sense to keep quite. But if they start saying that God as told them, given them a dream, a fission, a message etc etc etc we are entering a very different world. They are claiming an authority that comes from God . To missus's the authority of God for one's own purpose is the unforgivable sin. How do we know they are not giving a message from God. Very simple God does not lie, so his messenger will Never, Ever get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,222 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Are u as hard as a Byson ??? most of the time, just not as violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 26, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,222 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 26, 2020 this happens to be a pet peeve of mine.. God made him tell them something that Jonah said he knew it wasn't true which goes with the OP of this thread. God had to know what would happen and he had Jonah do it anyway, or is truly an example of God changing his mind when the people did something he was not expecting...... either case bothers me a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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